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Difference among various natural gas stove products

Inquiry: 

Hello, I have a natural gas pipe connection available on my back patio. So I am looking at the “PowerFlamer Natural Gas 160” and “EasyFlamer Natural Gas 50” as options. I have two questions: 1) Could you elaborate on what the difference is between getting a Fixed Connection and Quick Connection? 2) What are the primary feature differences between the “PowerFlamer Natural Gas 160” and “EasyFlamer Natural Gas 50” models?

Thanks in advance for all your assistance!

Outdoorstirfry: 

For difference between fixed installation and quick connect, please read https://outdoorstirfry.com/?s=difference+fixed+installation+and+quick+connect.

Main difference between PowerFlamer natural gas 160 and EasyFlamer natural gas 50 is in their max power ratings.  Additionally, EasyFlamer stove may have trouble supporting deep bottom wok which we offer an additional wok ring.  

Inquiry: 

Thank you for answering my questions. I have a few more if you don’t mind.

1) Is the top of the heat guard flush to the top of the two metal feet jutting out on the other side?

2) What is the diameter from the lip of the heat guard to those metal feet? 

Outdoorstirfry: 

1).  They are on the same height.  Any flat bottom cookware >13” can sit on them.

2).  13”

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Control comparison between PowerFlamer propane 160 and natural gas stoves

Inquiry: 

I have a natural gas hook-up on my deck, and I’m wondering if the natural gas unit works as well as the propane model and makes the venturi sound. Also does it come with the pilot light feature and and control knob?

Outdoorstirfry: 

The long handle on the natural gas stove controls the flame from zero to full in a 90-degree turn.  The smaller black handle on the right side controls the pilot light.     For the flame patterns and sounds, you can watch a couple videos to compare – video #11 “PF13LFN160 PowerFlamer Natural Gas Fixed Installation Stove Flame” for natural gas stove and #13 “Introducing PF13L160, a powerful outdoor stir fry stove.” For propane version on this product documentation link https://outdoorstirfry.com/support/product-documentation/.

For our propane PowerFlamer stove, the left knob typically needs to make 180-degree from low to high, thus has a bit more granularity in flame control.  PowerFlamer propane 160 stove has better control in low flame setting as well. 

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Questions on electronic ignition options, stand and cover.

Inquiry: 

Hi, I’ve seen many people on YouTube cook with your burner and it looks to be the best for outside wok cooking. I have a few questions.

The difference between regular one and integrated electronic ignition is just the auto starter right or are there more differences? Do both have pilot flame for low heat cooking times?

I really like the stove stand, I assume that fits your burners perfectly right, just put them in and be done?

What are the stabilizers and curious what color the stove cover is? If I get the stove stand do you have cover for that as well?

Thanks very excited to have found you guys will do some videos on Facebook and probably get you more customers

Outdoorstirfry: 

  1. For difference between EI and IEI options, please read https://outdoorstirfry.com/faq/differences-of-160ei-and-160iei-and-stand-question/.  Electronic ignition can’t serve as pilot flame.  Only our manual ignition option has a built-in pilot flame.
  2. Our PowerFlamer propane 160 short leg stove can drop onto the top hole on the stand. 
  3. Please click on “Usage Example” on the product page https://outdoorstirfry.com/product/long-leg-stabilizer-for-long-leg-stoves/ to see how stabilizers are used for more stable legs.  
  4. Please click on “Usage Examples” on the stand product page https://outdoorstirfry.com/product/stove-stand-stainless/ to see 2 colors examples. 

Inquiry: 

Thank you for quick response!  So if I want the stove stand and don’t care about using a lighter to initially light it I want the PowerFlamer Propane 160 with short legs and manual ignition?  Since I will have stand won’t need stabilizers correct?

For stand if I get wheels they can be locked it looks like in picture.

Will be ordering today just want to get exactly what I need.  Very excited to get your product and do proper wok cooking!  Right now even when wok is 585 degrees it falls to 180 the sec cold chicken or meat hit pan!  I end up cooking food with steam and not the searing hot pan I want/need!  🙂  I don’t think people realize they NEED your product!

Outdoorstirfry: 

  1. Your selection of short leg manual stove is correct for stand.
  2. The stand wheels have lock.  The stand is not that stable either when considering how people do their wok tossing, please click on “Usage Examples” on the stand product page https://outdoorstirfry.com/product/stove-stand-stainless/ to see pictures of heavy objects on the stand lower shelf for more stable cooking.
  3. Please watch 2nd video “How to know when to stop increasing power to a PowerFlamer propane/natural gas 160/120 stove?”  on our product documentation page https://outdoorstirfry.com/support/product-documentation/ when increasing the stove power flame. 

Inquiry: 

Was going to order but a little nervous about comment about stability of stand.  Can propane fit under the burner to give it more weight?  How heavy is burner?  I think my wife would complain if I put bricks on it, maybe I could put some of our cast iron pans we keep inside on it they’re quite heavy.  I could cook with a big cast iron pan on this as well if I want to do seared steaks or smash burgers right?

I have a pit boss flat top grill I plan to get rid of and focus on wok and cast iron pan cooking on your device hopefully.  I want the functionality with something that looks nice so wife doesn’t complain all the time.  🙂

Outdoorstirfry:

The height between two shelves of the stand does not fit a propane tank if you consider height of stove coming down from the top shelf hole.   A short leg PowerFlamer propane stove has weight about 23lbs. 

If your and wife’s wok cooking does not involve much wok tossing which can carry an edge of the stove which in turn affects the stand, you don’t have to worry much about the stability.   We are user to the stove with long legs ourselves for last 20 years.   We don’t have any stabilizers since our cooking style does not involve tossing.  Even if we toss (a few times in last 20 years), we make sure to lift the entire wok out of stove not to affect the stove.

 

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Installed directly on the counter?

Inquiry: 

Hello,  I would like to install this as part of my outdoor kitchen, if we build a hole on our concrete counter, can the burner be installed directly on the counter? I assume we order the short leg version? Is there anything else to keep in mind?

Outdoorstirfry: 

Do you intend to use propane or natural gas version?

Inquiry: 

Propane. 

Outdoorstirfry:

If you intend to use PowerFlamer propane 160 short leg stove, the easiest way is to cut a hole of 11” on you cook top.  The short leg PowerFlamer propane 160 stove can sit into the hole.  Please allocate empty space height of 12~15” below the hole for the stove and its inlet control valves.   This empty space needs to have armful fresh air access.  Let us know any further questions.

 

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Is Electronic Ignition Option a Separate Tool?

Inquiry: 

Is the electronic ignition option a separate tool?  https://outdoorstirfry.com/product/powerflamer-propane-160-long-lead-time/

Outdoorstirfry: 

The right knob on the valve assembly of the EI option controls the electronic ignition.  It is built into the valve assembly, not separate.  The left knob controls the main burner flame.  After the main burner flame is lit, the electronic ignition flame needs to be turned off. 

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What weight can PowerFlamer propane stove support?

Inquiry: 

Can this support the weight of a Lodge cast iron wok (11.86 lbs)?

Outdoorstirfry: 

If the weight of your wok + food is < 35 lbs, our long leg stove can support it.  Anything heavier please remove the long legs and use the resultant short leg version on a sturdy table surface. 

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Accommodating Skillet?

Inquiry: 

Would this only be appropriate for wok cooking? I’m looking for something that I can also use a large cast iron skillet on.

Outdoorstirfry: 

If your skillet diameter is >13”, it can sit on top of the stove.   The skillet may not be as stable as a wok on top of the stove.  

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Stand for PowerFlamer natural gas stoves

Inquiry: 

Hi: I want to make sure before I order…will the wok stove stand work with the Power Flamer natural gas stove? The webpage for the wok stove stand says it will work with the Power Flamer propane stove, but it doesn’t state that it will work with the natural gas stove.

Outdoorstirfry:

the stand does not work wit the natural gas stove.   

Inquiry: 

Thank you. Is there an alternative stand for the natural gas stove?

Outdoorstirfry: 

The natural gas wind guard construction is different and can not be supported by the stand.   We don’t have a stand product for it.  There are customers who build their own cart or cook station to support it if not willing to use stabilizers.

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Comparison to commercial burners

Inquiry: 

Hi,   I’m just getting into the wok world so bear with me since I’m still learning. I have a couple quick questions. 

– How does the PowerFlamer 160 compare to commercial heavy duty wok ranges? The setup looks quite similar assuming I get the stand. The one I’m looking at is 

Radiance TAWR-13 17-7/8″x34-1/8″ Wok Gas Range Duck Burner 13″ Opening https://www.acitydiscount.com/Radiance-17-7-8-x34-1-8-Wok-Gas-Range-Duck-Burner-13-Opening-TAWR-13.0.168474.1.1.htm

Spec sheet:  https://pics.acitydiscount.com/specs/TAWR-13.pdf

– How do you calculate the BTU for the PowerFlamer? It looks like it’s high than most commercial woks out there.

– Will I be able to leave the PowerFlamer outdoors through rain and winter assuming I use a cover? Will there be concerns around condensation and parts getting wet or corroded?

Thanks so much. 

Outdoorstirfry: 

Thanks for the links to Radiance burner.   It is interesting. 

  1. Radiance burner is 4 times as heavy as PowerFlamer.   It will be more stable than PowerFlamer.   With 130lbs, you need one or two more persons to help you set it up.   This is not a problem in commercial environment as they pay to install the entire kitchen anyway.  Our stove is portable, easily handled by one person in the home environment.  It is easier to compare Radiance burner with our PowerFlamer natural gas stoves.  Both use jet type burners.  Radiance requires ¾” connection, which is typical for commercial installation.   You will pay a professional plumber for installation.    We develop our stoves specially for residential usage.  Our installation process is easier to apply for residential.   Homeowner handyman typically sets it up themselves.
  2. We build prototype and test to get our BTU number with typical residential natural gas line.
  3. With a cover, the stove should be protected well from direct rain and snow.  However, since it is exposed all the time outdoor, it is still subject to moisture.   Stove body and burner can develop rust.  This does not affect performance and functioning of the stove, only to its look.   In fact, we have been using the same stove body for last 20 years in our own backyard.

Hope we answer your question.