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Which Model

Customer (PF13L160):

I cook Chinese food 3 times a week, have been to China a few times, and own more than twenty Chinese cookbooks. I realized that there is one absolutely crucial element to achieve wok hey, which is at the heart of Chinese cooking, and that is a powerful burner. No western burner is good enough for wok hey Chinese style. You need more than 50,000 BTUs for a number of preparations – good luck finding that even in a professional Western style restaurant stove. I searched wide and large for a suitable burner and I finally found it: the outdoorstirfry burner PF13L160 is the best in its class. It gives you more than enough power for ANY Chinese food preparation. A fantastic product. Get it, and then go to this Utube channel to learn how to use it: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCg0m_Ah8P_MQbnn77-vYnYw/videos. It truly is a different technique the one you need to master or you will eat ashes. A final word about Mr Dong. He is a terrific guy, always willing to help, and very prompt on the uptake when there is a problem to solve. Do yourself a favor and get the PF13L160. A new world of taste awaits you.

The only thing to work on in the future is to make it a little more rust proof…

Outdoorstirfry:

Thank you for your feedback.  Our next gen burners will be much more rust proof.

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thanks-giving

Customer (PF13SFN160): 

Want to say thanks (as in Thanksgiving) for the 160, short-legged.
 
The weather here in upstate New York has become very wintery, some snow and cold too, but did cabbage with garlic and peppers.  It works great, I would have chosen the “Mongolian” style burner too (I’ve seen it referred to as that somewhere).  It is jet engine force.  Most appreciate the way the  160 totally seems like was assembled in garage at home from available hardware store pieces, except of course for the burner parts and ring.  I show it off and wok away.
 
    . . . drop on by and we will stir fry!
 
Outdoorstirfry
 
Happy Thanksgiving!   Thanks for the good words.   PF13SFN160 series is still in its early stage.   We don’t know where to find manufacturer for it yet.  So we home make it as you pointed out.   For natural gas, it seems jet type burner is the only choice to reach such power level.
 
I came across “Mongolian” burner before.  Please the link of it if you have it for me to confirm.  I believe it is using propane gas.   It is different from what you get from us.   It is close in construction to our propane PowerFlamer series like PF13L160 but I’m not sure it can reach as high power as our burners.
 
Thanks for the invitation.  Let us know any further feedback.
 
Bests of the season.
 
Customer:  
 
PF13SFN160PF13SFN160
 
Outdoorstirfry
 
Happy Thanksgiving!
 
Thanks for the pictures.  The pot stickers are beautifully done.   I know your cookware is of cast iron type.  
 
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Is there any modification to the tip of the pilot light?

Customer (PF13L160): 

Is there any modification to the tip of the pilot light that would make it easier to light and keep lit? The control valve is too sensitive and the flame is small and blows out frequently.

Outdoorstirfry:

Can you look at 2nd video at this link http://outdoorstirfry.com/?page_id=768 to see if it helps?   I agree that a small flame at windy condition outdoor will be difficult to remain lit.   In that case it is better to light the main burner before cooking for every dish.  We will try to improve on how it can be lit in next generation.  However I don’t think we can solve for the windy situation.  Let us know how it goes.

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what is thin brass tube leading to the burner used for?

Customer (PF13L160): 

Thank you so much! I am very excited to use this, and have been wanting one for several years. They look well engineered for wok cooking.  Cheers.

I received the 13″ wok burner and everything looks great. It set up in a breeze and we are very excited to use it. I think you have designed a very good product. Thank you!

Outdoorstirfry:

thank you.  Let us know any feedback after using it for a while.

Customer:

Will do thank you! Oh, one question. One of the dials controls pressure from the thin brass tube leading to the burner. When and what is this used for? 

Outdoorstirfry:

The right valve is controlling gas to the thin copper tube as the pilot flame.  You can turn off the main burner between dishes if the pilot flame is lit.  We have a video (2nd one) on page http://outdoorstirfry.com/?page_id=768 on how to light the pilot flame.  Alternately you can choose not to use the pilot at all by turning the main burner really low between dishes.  

Customer: 

Ok that makes sense, thanks for clearing that up.  Cheers!

Wok burner is awesome!!! Very powerful, easy to use! Thanks again!

Outdoorstirfry:  

this is great!  We are glad that you are satisfied.

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hole in an outdoor kitchen tabletop

Customer (PF13SFN160): 

Just got delivery yesterday (the PF13SFN160) and it looks great. Thank you!

Is there way to install it as a burner by making a hole in an outdoor kitchen tabletop? As in, have the grey wok ring above the countertop and most/all of the windguard and base below? Or is there a need to have airflow come in under the windguard such that the whole unit needs to be above the counter?

Sorry for the silly question , but figured you’d know best. Any photos of outdoor kitchen installations that your other customers have done would be most appreciated.

Outdoorstirfry: 

The stove needs air inflow from bottom of the wind guard.  You can in-build the stove under the counter top.  But your hole needs to have holes that can supply air to the bottom of the wind guard/burner.   Hope we answer your question.

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Is there any wok ring that can fit this burner?

Customer (PF13L160): 

Thank you for sending the wok burner.  I was wondering, is there any wok ring that can fit this burner? The edges on the surface that the wok currently sits in are quite rough, and makes it difficult to flip on. Plus, it is scratching up the bottom of my wok.  Thank you.

Outdoorstirfry:  

The bottom of your wok should not have any coating, scratching a bit is OK.   The little saw teeth on the wok ring adaptor are to hold on the wok when you tilt it during cooking.  These are probably the area scratching the bottom of your wok.    If we make these teeth too smooth, the wok will slip and can NOT be tilt.

 

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One of the dials controls pressure from the thin brass tube leading to the burner.

Customer (PF13L160): 

one question. One of the dials controls pressure from the thin brass tube leading to the burner. When and what is this used for? 

Outdoorstirfry:

The right valve is controlling gas to the thin copper tube as the pilot flame.  You can turn off the main burner between dishes if the pilot flame is lit.  We have a video (2nd one) on page http://outdoorstirfry.com/?page_id=768 on how to light the pilot flame.  Alternately you can choose not to use the pilot at all by turning the main burner really low between dishes.  

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I ordered a high pressure regulator last month and I’ve been having problems with it.

Customer (High Pressure Regulator): 

I ordered a high pressure regulator last month and I’ve been having problems with it.  The gas comes out slowly and I’m not able to get the high power flame.  Can you provide a solution?  Thank you.

Outdoorstirfry: 

Can you watch video #1 on page http://outdoorstirfry.com/?page_id=768.   The regulator needs to give two clicking sounds after you turn on the tank valve.   These two sounds can sometime space out as long as 1 minute.   Please don’t turn on any thing before the 2nd clicking sound as the regulator is checking for leak.   When leak is detected, the regulator refuses to give full pressure.   Let us know any further question.

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Pilot light

Customer (PF13S160): 

I received the stove today. Thanks for shipping quickly. 1 question i have is regarding the pilot light. I’ve read many discussion regarding the pilot light on your website, but I’m still not clear.

While I do agree the pilot flame works the best when it’s 1-inch in length, but in order to achieve that 1-inch flame, the valve can only be cracked open very very slightly. It is very hard to control. Oftentimes, I would turn the valve too high, and the air flows too fast. As a result, the pilot light cannot be successfully lit. The second it’s lit, it will blow itself out.   

I notice on the brass nozzle of the pilot flame, there are 2 holes on the side. Are those the air inlet? If I cover up one of those holes, the pilot flame can be lit much easier. Do you think this is a good work around to cover up one of the inlet? I don’t want to use the stove not as intended, but right now, the pilot light is very finicky, and it would take me several tries to get it lit, especially, if it’s bright outside, and I can barely see the blue flame. 

Outdoorstirfry:  

If you cover up one air inlet hole and observe that the pilot flame can be more steady, please do so.  The procedure for the pilot light is to light up the main burner first.  With the main burner lit, you can light up the pilot light easily and adjust the flame by adjusting the pilot valve.  Since the valve assembly receive high pressure gas and the pilot only needs a tiny bit of gas to light, there is a fine adjustment to achieve a steady flame.

At home we usually cook a couple dishes at a time, we choose to light up the main burner by BBQ ignitor while not using the pilot at all. 

Customer:

Thanks for the reply. Pilot is important to me because I have to turn off the main burner often, to add seasoning. I think I’m gonna try turning on the main burner first before adjusting the pilot. Thanks. 

Outdoorstirfry

You have interesting cooking technique.   We actually prepare everything including seasonings before start the stove flame.   Actual cooking time is very short and we don’t need to re-light the stove.  

Customer

I like to full-power it when I’m tossing the food, but it also means the wok temperature gets really high. When I set the wok down to season and taste, if I have the flame still going ( even at medium setting), it will for sure burn the food. So instead try to turn it to the lowest setting, I might as well turn it off. Once I season, combine, and taste, then turn the fire back on to finish cooking. 
 
Also, having pilot light means I no longer have to reignite it when cooking the 2nd dish. 
 
Outdoorstirfry

You might get too much used to your previous stove of only two flame settings that you criticized in your earlier email.   PF13S160 flame power is continuous.   You can turn down to really low flame for simmer purpose.   This should give you another option beside turning the main burner fully off and then using the pilot flame to re-ignite.   I still find your way of cooking fascinating.   I hope your wok can retain heat well between your various phases of full power for one dish.  Otherwise you are heating the wok multiple times just to get back up to the same temperature.  

Customer

I use a 14-gauge 14inch wok, about 2mm, I think. it’s a little heavy.. Honestly, I find that if I keep the burner at full power, it would be too much for any dish. If I turn the burner off, and don’t add additional ingredients, it can maintain a sizzle for a long time. 
 
When I’m seasoning, I have to leave the food stationary for up to 10~30 seconds… so during that time, I can’t have the flame at high power. Yes, I could turn it to low heat, but i think it’s easier to just turn off, then turn the flame back after seasoning. 
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I’m just curious.

Customer (PF13S160):  

Thanks for the tracking #. Probably like many others, I purchased this stove after Kenji’s review. I hope you guys have a boom in business! 
 
Looking up the history of your company, it’s very impressive. Can you educate me on which products are the ones you have full design control over? and which ones are joint effort with the factory (ODM model)? 
 
I’m asking because your NG stoves all look very unique, and has an impressive flame for a home range. However, your propane one (this particular powerflamer) is very similar to those generic branded “fast stove” you can find at Chinese restaurant supply stores, for a very similar price range. I’m just wondering regarding your team’s design process with this particular model. Did you base on the generic “fast stove”, and add a few improvements? or is this completely different than the others on the market. 
 
Again, I’m just curious. I still chose your product at the end because I saw your great support you give to your customer on your website, and it is not more expensive than other stoves on the market. I’m just interested if there is additional advantage to your PF13xx160
 
Outdoorstirfry:  
 
Thank you for your question.   Our products are all based upon existing market products, then improved upon by our own usage experience, engineering talent and knowledge.   When we first came to USA, we had a need to stir fry.  We bought a “stir fry” stove from local Wisconsin market.  The stove was made by a company in Louisiana area which was famous in deep frying turkey type of cooking.   During the first stir fry my fingers got burned by the flame.   My friend in Wisconsin helped me to improve it to my own specifications.   When we left Wisconsin, we were granted a few patents from USPTO.  By worrying how to pay the due patent fees, we decide to try to sell to general public.   PF13x130 is the stove from those patents.

Our PF13x160 series is also based upon existing products.  In fact our CM in Asia has to sell their generic version beside supplying to us.   Otherwise they would not survive.   The PF13S160 stove to arrive to you has so far 3 of our patents – improving areas like stability, reliability, safety, outdoor weathering, flame control and tank compatibility etc.  The look of our PF13x160 might be similar to what our CM sells to other vendors from which you supply a link with.   Only using ours will get the benefits accomplished by us along the last 15+ years in solving those problems. 

We are capable of doing the design and development ourselves.  We don’t use ODM model. Bests.

Customer

Thanks for the insight! Look forward to the stove. 

I have purchased a couple of fast stoves in the past. The one I purchased 10 years ago, has a 大字形 nozzle, and had a pilot flame, and good flame control. I gave it to my dad so I no longer have it. I can no longer find this model on the market. 

Then I purchased another one like the one in the link below, and it was terrible. The flame control was very bad. It’s either full flame, or medium flame, or off, no in between. There is also no pilot light, so the flames die on me very often. 

https://wokowner.com/what-is-a-wok-burner/  

Outdoorstirfry

PF13S160 solves the problem you describe for the link you gave.   PF13S160 flame control is continuous.   We would love to see a sketch or picture on your dad’s 大字形 nozzle stove.