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Propane or natural gas for PowerFlamer 160?

Inquiry

Hi there, I am interested in your burner.  I have a natural gas outlet to my house and debating between natural gas and propane.  Is natural gas hot enough for wok or should I just stick with propane tank.  Is it easy to switch between natural gas and propane if I need to cook outside my home? (Friend’s house or camping?).  How long does it take for one to ship these days?  Thanks

Outdoorstirfry

Our PowerFlamer natural and propane stoves have the same max rating.  So they should achieve the same heat level.   However they are not interchangeable between fuel types.   PowerFlamer natural gas stove can’t be used with propane fuel.  PowerFlamer propane stove can’t be used with natural gas.  Our lead time from order to ship is around 6 months.  Sorry for the long lead time.

Inquiry:

Thank you for your reply.  Look forward to doing some woking!  I can be patient..
Which power flamer is most popular? I think propane makes more sense for me but does the propane tank last for a while?  If not, natural gas might be better long term….  is it useful to get the propane bottle? (Coleman camping bottle?  Does it last long?  Like to be practical….I read the electric ignition is nice to have. 
What size wok works best?  (Minimum size)

Outdoorstirfry:

Our propane stoves are more popular than natural gas one for now.  Among propane stoves, both manual and electronic ignition are equal popular.  With electronic ignition, you don’t need a long nose BBQ ignitor nearby.  However you might need to strike several times before successful.   Besides the electronic ignition can NOT be used as a pilot flame. 

For us only cooking 1~2 dishes a day, a propane tank lasts about 3~4 months.  One customer wants to achieve wok hei for every of his dish, his tank only lasts a little over 1 month since he spends quite some time to heat up his wok before actual cooking.  Each 1lb propane bottle lasts a night if you go camping or hiking. 

We recommend wok size of 14~16”.  We personally use 14”. 

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Interchangeable between natural gas and propane fuels for PowerFlamer 160

Inquiry: 

I have a natural gas outlet to my house and debating between natural gas and propane.  Is natural gas hot enough for wok or should I just stick with propane tank.  Is it easy to switch between natural gas and propane if I need to cook outside my home? (Friend’s house or camping?). 

Outdoorstirfry

Our PowerFlamer natural and propane stoves have the same max rating.  So they should achieve the same heat level.   However they are not interchangeable between fuel types.   PowerFlamer natural gas stove can’t be used with propane fuel.  PowerFlamer propane stove can’t be used with natural gas.  

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Powerflamer 160 Propane Long Lead Time Questions

Inquiry

Hey, for the long-lead item, are you charging the card when it ships or when the order is placed? Are you still expecting 6mo-1yr?

Outdoorstirfry

You will need to pay up front in order to be in the pre-order queue.  So far the estimate lead time is 6 months to 1 year.

Inquiry

Hi there I’m interested in purchasing a powerflamer 160 manual and was wondering how long will it take to ship to me I stay in the USA.

Outdoorstirfry

Currently we are out of stock on PowerFlamer propane 160.   We have a long lead time pre-order web page at http://outdoorstirfry.com/product/powerflamer-propane-160-long-lead-time/.   Lead time from order to ship there is estimated to 6~12 months. 

Inquiry

How long do you think the ship delay will be on these? Do you just not have the production, or what’s up? 🙂

Outdoorstirfry

We are experiencing long delay in production.   So far our vendor has not shipped parts to us.   6~12 months delay is our best estimate for now.

Inquiry

I would to buy a powerflamer 160. When do you expect this product to be back in stock?

Outdoorstirfry

We estimate to have stock in next 6~12 months.   Once our stock arrives, we will need to fulfill our pre-order list to some extent such that its lead time does not accumulate to too long.   We will ship according to the sequence in the list.  You might want to consider ordering it at http://outdoorstirfry.com/product/powerflamer-propane-160-long-lead-time/ to be in the queue.

Inquiry:

Just checking if your lead time is still 6months to 1 year. Also if order and pay, can I get money back if I find an other alternative before you ship. Thanks.

Outdoorstirfry

6~12 months is still our estimate although we are preparing our next shipment now.   You will get full refund if cancel before we ship. 

Inquiry:

I see you now offer a “long lead time” for the burners.  Will you still have some available each day for the “quick ship” option?

Outdoorstirfry

We run of stock for the quick ship items for now.   When our next shipment arrives, we will need to fulfill the pre-order long lead items for some time before deciding if we can re-open the quick ship.

Inquiry

Hello, do you have an anticipated date of when these will be back in stock for immediate purchase?

Outdoorstirfry

We don’t know when our next stock will arrive.  Our best estimate is still 6~12 months.  When our next stock arrives, we will need to fulfill the pre-order long lead items for some time before deciding if we can re-open the quick ship.

Inquiry

What is meant by lead time and what are those conditions? What exactly is the current wait time? Thank

Outdoorstirfry

Lead time is the time from the time when the order is received to the time when we ship it.  Currently we are looking at 6~12 months. 

Inquiry

I was looking to purchase the PowerFlamer Propane 160. I understand there is a long lead time for this, do you have any idea how long the lead time would be if I purchased one today?

Outdoorstirfry

We are preparing for our next shipment now.  However we have not received any update from vendor yet.  Conservatively it is 6~12 months.   If you order one today, lead time might be about 6 months.  If our pre-order list becomes too big, the lead will stretch toward 12 months. 

Inquiry

Under the order page(long lead time link) for the powerflamer 160, it shows 92 available, so is there a wait or are they available?

Outdoorstirfry

Good question.  They are available for pre-order with lead time of 6~12 months.   They are not here yet and we are not able ship.  

Inquiry:   

I saw 77 in stock.  how long it take to ship to east coast?

Outdoorstirfry

77 in stock for pre-order into our waiting list.  Currently the lead from order to ship is 6~12 months.   Shipping time to east coast is about a week once we are able to ship.

Inquiry

On the long lead time for the outdoor burner power flame 1600, it says there are 68 in stock, does that mean there is still a long lead time?

Outdoorstirfry

We have words in red on the page that if you order, you are pre-ordering into our waiting list which has long lead time of 6~12 months.  If it is out of stock here, nobody can even do pre-ordering.  Hope this makes sense.

Inquiry

I just placed an order today for a 160. I was wondering, since it says you had 65 in stock when I ordered, will it be shipped soon? Thank You!

Outdoorstirfry

65 in stock for customers to pre-order into our waiting list which has lead time of 6~12 months.  In case if you expect it soon, we will cancel your order.   Please reply.

Inquiry

Ah okay no problem. I do have one more question. When it says you can have tank and bottle, does that mean like a Colman mini propane tank? And is that a different hose or is it directly on the unit? 

Outdoorstirfry

OK we will keep your order and your place in the waiting list.

When you order a stove with tank and bottle option, the stove will go with an adaptor that you can use with both 20 lbs. propane tank and 1 lb. propane throwaway bottle.  People usually use the 1lb bottle in hiking or camping trip.   Let us know any further question.

Inquiry

hey, i was interested in getting a new wok burner, but 6mo-1yr is a long time to wait, I just wanted to make sure this was true? I live in las vegas. Thanks!

Outdoorstirfry

Sorry to say that 6~12 months is quite real although we try our best to speed up.  Frankly speaking, order made now (9/19/2021) may not get covered by our next shipment which our vendor has not shipped.  Each shipment takes about 6 months to process through.

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Lead time for quick-ship PowerFlamer propane 160 stoves

Inquiry

When is the projected time these burners will come available for purchase?

Outdoorstirfry

For quick-ship, we don’t know when.  We might never open for quick ship order because we might be too busy fulfilling our long lead time order list once our next cargo arrives.   We are open for pre-order for long lead items.  Long lead time is 6~12 months from order to ship. 

Inquiry

Will you fulfill long lead time orders before opening up for quick orders?  I’m asking if I place the order long lead time if you will send me my item before you start letting more people order for quick delivery. I
assume this is the case but wanted to confirm. Thanks.

Outdoorstirfry

It is confusing, isn’t it?  We are confused as well some times. Answering your question helps us clearing up our mind. We have not made up our mind fully.  But judging from our limited capacity, I would say quick ship ordering will have to wait until we feel comfortable in handling the long lead orders after our next cargo arrives. 

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Propane 160 quick ship

Inquiry: 

Will Quick Ship for the propane 160 be re-stocked or is the long lead time the fastest way to get one?  Thank you!

Outdoorstirfry: 

Good question.   We might not be able to offer quick ship for a long time if our long lead time orders pile up too much.   Limited by our capacity, we might have to just work on long lead time orders such that we don’t exceed the 1 year lead time.   However if our capacity allows, we might re-open the quick ship after our new stock arrives.   So far we don’t receive any estimate on when the new stock will arrive.     

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would like PowerFlamer Propane 160

Inquiry

Hello – I am interested in in the PowerFlamer Propane 160.  I see that it is on backorder.  What sort of ETA would I be looking at if I wanted to buy one?  Are you producing more?  Thanks.

Outdoorstirfry

We don’t know when our next shipment will arrive.  We estimate to be 6 months to 1 year.  We have a pre-order page for people to pay to get into the waiting list on our web site now at http://outdoorstirfry.com/product/powerflamer-propane-160-long-lead-time/.   We will ship according to the sequence in our waiting list when our stock arrives.

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Difference between PowerFlamer Natural Gas & Propane Gas

Inquiry

Is PowerFlamer Natural Gas 160 the same as the propane EI model, the difference being the power source only?

Outdoorstirfry: 

PowerFlamer natural gas 160 stove is completely different from the propane version and can’t be used with propane fuel.  You need to have a natural gas pipe line connected to your house before the natural gas version makes sense for you. 

Inquiry:

Yes I’m aware of the natural gas line hookup requirement…I already have 1. My question is: does this burner function the same as the propane 160 model? 

Outdoorstirfry:

The PowerFlamer natural gas 160 has the same max heat and continuous flame adjustment as the propane version.  Its low end flame can’t be as granular as the propane version.  Some people like 90 degrees to turn from zero to full power.  The natural gas version has this feature.

 

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How can i pay with credit card?

Inquiry: 

how can i pay with credit card?

Outdoorstirfry: 

When there is inventory on our web page, our web page will enable (not gray out) the “Add to cart” button.   After you are successful in adding the product on to a shopping cart, our web page shopping cart will direct you to a secure Paypal web page where you can pay with credit card or Paypal account.    

There is scenario where you will end up empty even if you are able to add the product to a shopping cart.   Please read http://outdoorstirfry.com/faq/i-click-the-product-into-my-cart-but-get-empty-at-the-end-what-happen/ for detail. 

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Ho to explain to my builder what type of pipe he needs to drive the PowerFlamer propane 160?

Inquiry: 

  1.  Do you have any clients who have built in their Power Propane 160’s into their outdoor kitchens?  Any chance you have pictures?  
  2.  My home will have a large propane tank, with pipes run to all appliances indoor and out.  Is there a particular sized pipe I will beed to get the BTU’s your units are capable of?

Outdoorstirfry: 

  1.  We have customers building outdoor kitchen with PowerFlamer propane 160.  Unfortunately we did not ask for picture.   Simple thing to observe when building the kitchen with the stove:  maintain air flow from bottom of the stove.   Many customers simply cut a hole slightly smaller than the wind guard top part such that the stove sits snuggly on the counter. 
  2. To the stove you will need to maintain high pressure >30 PSI.   Many home big tanks are installed such that only low pressure (~0.5PSI) comes out.  This is not right for PowerFlamer propane 160 stove.   Size the pipe such that it can deliver 200kBTU/Hr continuously. 

 

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Powerflamer coating

Inquiry: 

The pictures shows the cast iron Powerflamer 160 has a dark color high temp coating. Do they all have that coating now, I ask since some videos and pics of the Powerflamer show bare cast iron with no coating. Thanks.

Outdoorstirfry: 

Our videos and picture tutorials accumulate over time and were shot whenever products were available at their time.  They might be of different paints and colors than what we are offering.   Our latest PowerFlamer propane 160 stove has dark gray color.