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I would like to know what the difference is between PF13L160 and PF13CL160.

Inquiry: 

I would love to hear when they are back in stock. Also I would like to know what the difference is between those two.

Outdoorstirfry: 

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About the difference between PF13L160 and PF13CL160, PF13L160 will only work with a 20lbs propane tank.  PF13CL160 can work with a 20lbs propane tank or a 1lb propane bottle.  Bests.

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Product suggestion

Inquiry: 

Can you help me with product selection? Looking for high output, propane tank only, work burner with legs.

Question. Are there any special advantage to electronic ignition?  (Very easy for me to use stick lighter and electronic ignition feels like more things tat could go wrong.) Also, I see that there is a new design coming in 2021. Does this effect the manual ignition version also? Will you soon be closing out the 2020 electronic ignition versions?

Outdoorstirfry: 

Based upon your description, we would suggest PF13L160. 

Very good questions.   The advantage of electronic ignition is that you don’t have to have a manual long nose BBQ ignitor when the electronic ignition works.  I agree with you.  More part can go wrong sooner.  Electronic ignition can last probably on average 2~3 years in outdoor all weather situation.  Our electronic ignition version is already out of stock for rest of 2020.   Our manual version will go out of stock in about a month.

The new generation will affect both electronic and manual ignition versions as they share most parts. 

Inquiry:

What will be the differences in the new model? (Trying to decide if to order now or wait for the new version).  Application will be amateur home cook.  Not-regular use.

How do your units compare to the similar Manniu burners?

Outdoorstirfry: 

The new generation improves a few areas such as paint, flame, legs and regulator.  

We did not come out of these products out of blue.  Originally we were just regular user like you, starting buying from product sold like by Manniu to cook.  Then we were not satisfied on them and started to modify them.  The moment we were notified that we got issue of patent rights, we realized that we have to have money to pay to the government.   And here are the products you can buy with 15~20 years of improvements on them.

Inquiry:

And thank you for the insights into the 2021 model.  In your opinion, are the upgrades worth waiting for or would I be perfectly satisfied with the 2020 version you recommended?  (I will go with the manual ignition)

Outdoorstirfry: 

You should be fully satisfied with existing version if you don’t care rust.  The existing one is silver color in all.  The new one will have more than one color among different parts.      

Inquiry:

Are there useful functional upgrades to the burner and controls in the 2021 PF13L160 or are most of the changes cosmetic? 

Do some people paint your burners with high heat enamel to reduce the rust and change the color?

Outdoorstirfry: 

New paint will prevent rust much better.  New legs will improve stability.  We will make flame more consistent among different products.   Yes, people can buy paint and paint themselves. 

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Is there much difference between the manual ignition version PF13L160 and the electronic ignition version PF13L160EI?

Inquiry

Is there much difference between the manual ignition version PF13L160 and the electronic ignition version PF13L160EI?

Outdoorstirfry:  

PF13L160EI has an electronic ignition head.  It usually takes 3~5 strikes to ignite a flame on the ignition tube end.   Once the flame on the ignition tube end ignites the main burner, you will need to turn off the ignition tube flame to avoid damaging the ignition wire.  If you stop the main burner between cooking dishes, you will need to repeat the ignition process for each dish.

PF13L160 has a pilot light and requires manual ignition.  You would ignite the main burner at low flame first by turning on the left valve.  Then turn on the pilot flame by turning on the right valve.  Adjust the pilot flame to appropriate flame size (~0.5 to 1″ in length of flame).  The pilot flame stays lit between cooking dishes.   If you turn off the main burner between cooking dishes, you only need to turn on the main burner for cooking next dish (no need for any more manual ignition).   Because of its simplicity PF13L160 offers better reliability.  

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Inquiries for PF13CL160

Inquiry:

Hello, I was interested in the PF13CL160/PF13L160 and had several questions that I hope you can answer.

    – How long is the installation process?

    – Do you have a video of how to put the burner together?

    – How difficult is it to put together?

    – CL version indicates it is configurable to either a tank or a bottle. Is it easily interchangeable between a tank or a bottle?

    – What is the process of switching back and forth?

    – Long Leg Stabilizer (accessory): How is this installed on the long leg? I see the the usage example and it looks very helpful.

    – Pilot Light: I was reading the response in the process of the pilot light. I always understood it as lighting the pilot first and then it powers the burner but is it different for propane gas where we have to light the burner first and then the pilot light?

    – If I was to order both the burner and the stabilizer, is there a discount on shipping?

Thank you for your time and help. I understand ordering is on pause.Take your time in response. I am excited about your product and hope I can place an order soon.  Stay safe.

Outdoorstifry: 

  1. We provide a user installation when ship. You will just put up the long legs and connect to a tank after the stove arrive.
  2. We provide a user guide in PDF.
  3. Very easy.
  4. There is an adaptor for the 1lb bottle. You will just screw the adaptor into the regulator connector before screwing the 1lb propane bottle on to it.
  5. you unscrew the adaptor out to expose the tank connector.
  6. If you zoom out the bottom of the long legs of the first example picture, the stabilizer is screwed and tighten onto a long leg.
  7. Because the high pressure gas, it is somewhat difficult to set the pilot knob correctly initially. We recommend to light the main burner using a long nose BBQ ignitor first, then adjust the pilot with the main burner on.
  8. We will refund the extra shipping charge after shipping.
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recommended clearance

Inquiry: 

Hello, I am considering purchasing PF13L160EI, however I only have a small porch. Would like to know your recommended stove clearance so I can see if i can fit it.  Thanks!

Outdoorstirfry:

The flame will typically surround the wok bottom surface and come upward.  If you have stucco wall, we recommend 1 foot clearance.  If you have wood wall, we recommend 2 feet clearance.  Hope this helps.

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I have a few questions.

Inquiry

What is the difference between the Power Flamer 130 and the Power Flamer 160?  One is stronger?  Are there any other differences?   When would you recommend the 130 and when would you recommend the 160?

Outdoorstirfry

130 has a 4″ burner and 160 has a 6″ burner.  160 flame is stronger.   130 is half weight as 160.  We recommend 130 for casual cooking and road trip.  For everyday cooking, we would only recommend 160.

Inquiry

How much control do you have over the flame? Is it continuously adjustable from low to high? Or are there discrete settings?

Outdoorstirfry

both 130 and 160 are continuous flame adjustable.

Inquiry

What is the Easy Flamer? Is it also for wok cooking?

Outdoorstirfry:

EasyFlamer has electronic ignition although not reliable at times.  They are for wok cooking.   We have versions for propane and natural gas types.

Inquiry

Does the burner come with everything except the propane tank to be useable. Of course, I need a wok and utensils, I mean simply to get a fire going?   Or does one need other accessories to ignite it?

Outdoorstirfry:

We recommend to have a long nose BBQ ignitor handy and nearby.

Inquiry

On the accessories page, the 30 psi connector and the easy tank connector, are they necessary and need to be purchased or do the burners come with these already when applicable and those are replacements?

Outdoorstirfry

our stove product goes with 30PSI regulator built in if it is needed.   Many of our stove products connect to tank/bottle correctly and easily.  EasyTankConnector is only needed when difficult to connect tank/bottle.  We don’t recommend customer buying it when purchasing a new stove product. 

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Liquid Propane vs Propane Gas

Inquiry

Hi.  I see that you list the item for propane gas. Where I live, we have LP gas, which I understand to be a mix of propane and others.  Will this burner work with LP gas as well?   Please advise.

Outdoorstirfry

LP is liquid propane.   When liquid propane comes out of the tank, it becomes propane gas.   Any cooking appliance with propane uses propane gas, not liquid propane directly.   However we can say that our products work with LP as well.