Inquiry:
Can you advise me pros and cons of having the electronic ignition?
Outdoorstirfry:
With electronic ignition option you do not need a long nose BBQ manual ignitor. However you will need to strike a few times to get the burner going. Manual ignition has a pilot flame. Typically you light the pilot up and light up the burner from pilot.
Customer (PF13L160):
I am writing to thank you for your ingenuity, dedication, and commitment to quality. I have been using my brand new 160 (latest model) frequently since I received it. I am amazed at the quality of components, consistent results, and superior effectiveness of the centrally-focused burner.
In fact, I love it so much that I am only afraid of what I would do if any part broke? Is it possible to order spare regulators and hoses? That seems like the most likely point to fail.
Also, I am loving the updated pilot light design. It has been working flawlessly. I am excited to feed a small crowd!
Anyway, I just want to thank you again for bringing something truly fresh to the American market.
Outdoorstirfry:
Thank you for your good words. We agree that the regulator is the most frequent part needs to be changed. We usually support once customer reports of such failure. We would discourage buying individual part as most people don’t know well enough how to restore the entire system.
Inquiry:
I’m looking at the 160. Is there a separate valve that controls the pilot light?
Outdoorstirfry:
Yes, the one on the right controls the pilot flame.
Inquiry:
I don’t have any experience using propane tanks. It looks like the 160 comes with a regulator, do I need a high pressure regulator?
Outdoorstirfry:
PowerFlamer propane 160 goes with a high pressure regulator already.
Inquiry:
Does your manual ignition require a match to light it or does it have a manual push button igniter?
Outdoorstirfry:
Yes our manual ignition stoves need a long nose BBQ ignitor to light up the flame to start cooking. Once you get the pilot flame going, you can turn off the main burner and ignite it with the pilot flame afterward.
Customer (PF13L160):
Is there any modification to the tip of the pilot light that would make it easier to light and keep lit? The control valve is too sensitive and the flame is small and blows out frequently.
Outdoorstirfry:
Can you look at 2nd video at this link https://outdoorstirfry.com/?page_id=768 to see if it helps? I agree that a small flame at windy condition outdoor will be difficult to remain lit. In that case it is better to light the main burner before cooking for every dish. We will try to improve on how it can be lit in next generation. However I don’t think we can solve for the windy situation. Let us know how it goes.
Customer (PF13L160):
one question. One of the dials controls pressure from the thin brass tube leading to the burner. When and what is this used for?
Outdoorstirfry:
The right valve is controlling gas to the thin copper tube as the pilot flame. You can turn off the main burner between dishes if the pilot flame is lit. We have a video (2nd one) on page https://outdoorstirfry.com/?page_id=768 on how to light the pilot flame. Alternately you can choose not to use the pilot at all by turning the main burner really low between dishes.
We have added a couple videos showing how to get full pressure and how to light up the pilot light for our PowerFlamer stoves. They are at this page.
Customer (PF13S160):
I received the stove today. Thanks for shipping quickly. 1 question i have is regarding the pilot light. I’ve read many discussion regarding the pilot light on your website, but I’m still not clear.
While I do agree the pilot flame works the best when it’s 1-inch in length, but in order to achieve that 1-inch flame, the valve can only be cracked open very very slightly. It is very hard to control. Oftentimes, I would turn the valve too high, and the air flows too fast. As a result, the pilot light cannot be successfully lit. The second it’s lit, it will blow itself out.
I notice on the brass nozzle of the pilot flame, there are 2 holes on the side. Are those the air inlet? If I cover up one of those holes, the pilot flame can be lit much easier. Do you think this is a good work around to cover up one of the inlet? I don’t want to use the stove not as intended, but right now, the pilot light is very finicky, and it would take me several tries to get it lit, especially, if it’s bright outside, and I can barely see the blue flame.
Outdoorstirfry:
If you cover up one air inlet hole and observe that the pilot flame can be more steady, please do so. The procedure for the pilot light is to light up the main burner first. With the main burner lit, you can light up the pilot light easily and adjust the flame by adjusting the pilot valve. Since the valve assembly receive high pressure gas and the pilot only needs a tiny bit of gas to light, there is a fine adjustment to achieve a steady flame.
At home we usually cook a couple dishes at a time, we choose to light up the main burner by BBQ ignitor while not using the pilot at all.
Customer:
Thanks for the reply. Pilot is important to me because I have to turn off the main burner often, to add seasoning. I think I’m gonna try turning on the main burner first before adjusting the pilot. Thanks.
Outdoorstirfry:
You have interesting cooking technique. We actually prepare everything including seasonings before start the stove flame. Actual cooking time is very short and we don’t need to re-light the stove.
Customer:
You might get too much used to your previous stove of only two flame settings that you criticized in your earlier email. PF13S160 flame power is continuous. You can turn down to really low flame for simmer purpose. This should give you another option beside turning the main burner fully off and then using the pilot flame to re-ignite. I still find your way of cooking fascinating. I hope your wok can retain heat well between your various phases of full power for one dish. Otherwise you are heating the wok multiple times just to get back up to the same temperature.
Customer:
Inquiry:
I see two gas valves – is there an order in which to light the burner or just turn both on?
Outdoorstirfry:
The valve on the left side controls the main burner. The valve on the right side controls the pilot flame.
Inquiry:
Hello, I would like to get the Continuous to 160kBTU/Hr. 32 lbs because I am going to use it for commercial purpose in a street food market. Do you think this device can handle 200 – 300 preparation a day for 3 days in a row? and whats the difference with this one Continuous to 160kBTU/Hr. 31 lbs, besides the price?
Outdoorstirfry:
For manual ignition, the 160kBTU/Hr, 31lbs is PF13L160 while the 160kBTU/Hr, 32lbs is PF13CL160. Both products are at this page https://outdoorstirfry.com/?page_id=1180. PF13CL160 comes with an adapter for 1lb propane bottle which you don’t need. PF13CL160 is for people who want to carry light for camping etc. You will want a PF13L160. PF13L160 is our sturdiest stove and should be able to handle your 300 per day 3 days cooking. In fact we have restaurant chain buying our PF13L160 for catering purpose which is similar to your application.
Inquiry:
Hi again, this is my second mail, what if the Continuous to 160kBTU/Hr. 31 lbs stays on for many hours, like 5 or 6 hours, we will turn it off but just for a few seconds or maybe 1 or 2 minutes and then keep cooking since we are going to use it in a food market, WE DO NOT WANT TO BE WITH OUT THE EQUIPMENT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SALE.DO YOU THINK IT WILL RESIST??? If one order takes about 55 seconds to cook, how many orders can we make with a small tank as show in your videos?
Outdoorstirfry:
PF13L160 comes with a pilot flame. You can turn off the main burner between cooking while keeping the flame to save gas. In our home cooking, each tank lasts about 3~4 months with 1~2 dishes per day. Let’s take the average number of meals we cook for each tank is 3.5 (months) x 30 (days) x 1.5 (meals) = 157.5 meals. For your 3 days 300 meals per day cooking, look like you will need 6~8 tanks in worst case estimation.
Inquiry:
Thank you for your answer, it gives me a better idea of what I need. So I will make my order very soon.
Outdoorstirfry:
A PowerFlamer PF13L160 stove has been deposited with www.fedex.com. It takes 2~3 business days to reach your XXXX address. The tracking number is 7718 XXXX XXXX. Attached in this email is the user installation guide.
Customer:
Awesome, I’ll let you know if I have any questions, thank you!
Customer:
I just got the PF13L160, I am the guy who wants to do the street market remember?
2 questions:
The pilot does not turns on, I am trying to star it but every time I turn on the burner, ones I finish the pilot does not keep the flame, what can I do.
I have a family member who bought the burner, and when he start it I can see the flame going very powerful, mine I can feel is very hot but I do not see any flame, just a very weak flame. Can you check the order under XXXX XXX, to XXXX city in California around 1 month ago? I want to make sure she ordered the same item that you recommend me in the last mail which you can see down this one.
Outdoorstirfry:
We check what XXXX bought. It was a PF13L160 stove. What you have is our latest stove. As compared with our previous generation, one of the optimization is the power. However when the stove is turned off, there is a “pop” sound, an indication of too high gas pressure from the main burner. So when we ship, we minimize this by turning the air shutter in front of the burner pipe (right after the valve assembly) closest to the burner pipe. If you adjust this air shutter toward the valve assembly away from the burner pipe, you can feel different power as the minimum. Do you know when your other relative bought their stove?
In terms of pilot light, it can go out if you shut off the main burner quickly. When you turn off the main burner, please slow down such that the main burner gas does not create too much abrupt wind effect to the pilot.
Hope this helps. Let us know any further question.
Customer:
So just to resume I do not see a big flame, so since there is not big flame it is harder to flame the food on the wok. I will have to use some liquor in order to get flame. I have an 880000 BTU device, less power than you send me, but flame looks bigger. I do not saying you device does not work, I can feel a lot of heat, but since I am trying to do stir fry what I need is flame. Let me know what you think.
Customer:
(with Video) Hello, This is a burner that my family bought under XXX XXX a few years a go, so when he show me this video I saw the flame who looks I wouldn’t say big but there is a flame.
Customer:
(with Video) And this is the burner that I just received under XXX XXX, so when I start the burner I know there is a flame but I can barely see it. And the pilot does not turns on even when I try to star it when my hand fire thing or please tell me what’s the way to do it.
Outdoorstirfry:
You sent two emails with same video of our previous generation stove. Do you mean to send a video for the new stove in your second email? If yes please resend.
We tested every stove before ship. Unless something is wrong, we believe the new one should achieve same flame as the old one if not better. Let’s work together to figure this out.
Customer:
(with correct 2nd video) Sorry here is the other video. A lot of heat but low flame, let me know please, thank you for answering I am against time for the event.
Outdoorstirfry:
Can you share your phone number? I will call you to discuss.
Customer:
Sure 562 XXX XXXX I am free right now
Outdoorstirfry:
(one day after conversation)
We experimented a bit on the pilot light not able to stay lit issue when main burner is turned off. If we bend the pilot copper tube upward a bit at the valve assembly area such that the pilot flame is away from the main burner (see picture below), together with adjusting the pilot flame to be small and turn off the main burner flame slowly, we are able to maintain the pilot flame during 3 to 4 main burner turn off tries. (Picture of the pilot light with respect to burner/wind guard). Hope this helps.
Outdoorstirfry:
(a couple weeks later)
How was your street experience with the stove last weekend?
Customer:
I had been practicing a lot with the burner, I am now using a 13 inch wok so flames better that the first one who was bigger so flame could not get in to the wok, now I will say I feel results are better, a lot of heat and good flame, everything was about technique.
So the street market will be on July and August, it is the 626 Night Market in Arcadia, have you heard about it? it will be my first experience and about the public visitors they are expecting 30 000 per day or more. I am hopping your burner can hold many orders through the night, the burner looks strong and easy to manipulate let me get very familiar with it and finish my recipe and I will send a second order.
I will keep you up date. Thank you
Outdoorstirfry:
I search up the night market. A lot of pictures on internet and a lot of happy people. Hope your cooking adds to the happiness of the event.
I have been in southern CA a few times. Weather in summer is incomparable anywhere else, so ideal for people to go out entertaining at night.
