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Question on stabilizers and cover

Inquiry: 

could you explain the stabilizers and what they do and how they would help me.
Is the stove cover made for waterproofing the unit or is it more like a pot stove lid and just for preventing debris from resting on the unit once left out of use?

Outdoorstirfry: 

For stabilizers, please read https://outdoorstirfry.com/?s=stabilizers.   Stove cover is of water-resistant material.   For covering from dust, you simply flip the wok upside down.

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What are the stabilizers?

Inquiry: 

What are the stabilizers?

Outdoorstirfry: 

When people toss their wok during cooking, wok is heavy and may not fully be lifted off from the stove.   Consequently, the stove is carried by the wok and may fall.   The stabilizers are to make the stove sturdier.   For how to use the stabilizers, please refer the “Usage Examples” section of the product page https://outdoorstirfry.com/product/long-leg-stabilizer-for-long-leg-stoves/.

If your cooking style does not involve with tossing, you don’t need to consider the stabilizers. 

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how do the leg stabilizers work

Inquiry: 

how do the leg stabilizers work / can they be ordered separately if needed in the future / do you think they are necessary for a 14″ wok?

Outdoorstirfry: 

Please view the “Usage Examples” section on the stabilizer product page https://outdoorstirfry.com/product/long-leg-stabilizer-for-long-leg-stoves/ on how they work.   You can order them separately.   IF your cooking does not involve with tossing the wok on the stove side, you don’t need the stabilizers.  We are daily user to the stove and we don’t use stabilizers since we don’t toss the food during cooking. 

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Questions on Tank/Bottle, Stabilizers, Pilot Flame for PowerFlamer 160.

Inquiry: 

Hi, Do I have to buy a tank or bottle with the 160 long lead time model? I’d like to not have to do this. Also, what exactly do the leg stabilizers do? How do they work? And does the cover custom fit the burner or is simply a square tarp? Lastly, is there a pilot flame without the electric ignition start or the pilot flame only exists if you have the electric ignition option?

Outdoorstirfry: 

  1.  We do not sell tank or bottle.   You will need to get them from your local hardware store or gas station.  We only sell stove that works with tank or bottle.
  2. When people cooks, they may toss the food in the wok.  Since the food can be heavy, lifting the wok from stove may not be complete.   The result is that the wok is carrying the stove to a tilt.   Leg stabilizers help to stabilize the stove.   Please look at the “Usage Examples” section at the product link https://outdoorstirfry.com/product/long-leg-stabilizer-for-long-leg-stoves/.
  3. The stove cover is a custom hand-made piece for our stove.   Please look at the “Usage Examples” section at the product link https://outdoorstirfry.com/product/stove-cover/.
  4. The electronic ignition version does not have a pilot flame.   The electronic ignition flame needs to be completely turn off after the main burner is ignited.   Our manual version has the pilot flame that can stay during cooking. 

Hope we answer your questions.   Let us know any further question.

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How to apply the long leg stabilizers

Customer (PF13L160):

For the long leg stabilizers, do you have a picture of what they look like installed? I may add to my order, but I can’t figure out how they work.  https://outdoorstirfry.com/product/long-leg-stabilizer-for-long-leg-stoves/

Outdoorstirfry:

If you go to the “Usage Examples” section on the web page, you will see how they are applied.   A picture is below.

Customer:

do you have a picture as to how the leg stabilizers go on?

Outdoorstirfry:

Pictures of stabilizer usage can be found in our stove installation guide we sent in email during shipping.  On our stabilizer product web page, they are in the  “Usage Examples” section.

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Long leg stove to work with the stand?

Customer: 

Hello , can i put the 160 long leg wok in the stand,? I really like it

Outdoorstirfry: 

The long legs are detachable.  Once detached, the stove is a short leg version, ready to be inserted into the stand hole.   

Customer: 

That’s great news, i don’t plan to move this often, do u recommend the table for stability?

Outdoorstirfry:

The table only weighs 11lbs.  To our understanding, its bottom shelf will need to be weighed down with heavy object for better stability.   We have stabilizers for long legs that also improves stability of the stove. 

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Knob Modification?

Customer (PF13L160_Stabilizers): 

I just got a powerflamer 160 (propane, long leg with stabilizers, manual ignition)
Question 1: am I able to safely remove the gas adjustment knob and replace it with a lever of some kind ?
It is difficult to tell the power level of the flame by sight alone as I cook in broad daylight, yes I can hear the power of the flame but sometimes that’s not enough.
Question 2:
I have the long leg version. I see the metal table/ stand you sell in “accessories” if for the short leg version of the stove. Does that really matter? They appear to be the same would I be able to put my long leg stove (obviously without the legs) in the metal stand if I wanted to later on ?
Thank you !

Outdoorstirfry: 

The concern of changing the knob to any level is that the level tends to allow too much force into the shaft and the valve body.  This will wear out the valve much quicker, if not damage it at the beginning.  Can you draw marker (using a permanent marker) on the knob instead?

For fitting into the stand hole, you simply remove the long legs.  Without the long legs, the stove is a short leg version, ready to be inserted into the stand hole.

Customer: 

The permanent marker idea will work I was also thinking the lever would be more convenient flame adjustment but that’s ok.

One more question I watched the video concerning how to know when the flame power is too high I believe it was #2 on the list

May I ask why the design is this way where the flame backfires on to the gas line ? It seems very dangerous. Anyone could no watch that video and adjust their flame to full power not knowing the danger of that.

Outdoorstirfry: 

Good question.  The flame going downward is due to combination of raising too much power from the stove along with a wok on top of the stove blocking the flame upward.   Our latest stove design already improves this situation to our best, although we can’t guarantee for all woks out there.    This is why we warn at ship time. 

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Stove damaged by Eaton fire.

Customer (PF13L!60_Stabilizers): 

Hi,  I ordered the power flamer a bit over a year ago, and really liked it. Unfortunately my house burned down in the Eaton Fire (you can confirm with my shipping address below) and the wok burner was lost (see photo). I used it a lot, mostly for Sichuan cooking.

Stove damaged from Eaton Fire LA

I would like to get another one, now that we’re slowly settling into a new place. Would you have any discounts for getting the same thing? It was an essential part of our cooking routine. Thank you for considering. 

Outdoorstirfry: 

Sorry for the loss of your house.   Hope dealing with insurance/government assistance isn’t that overwhelming.  

We can supply a similar product PF13L160EI_Stabilizers for free to you.  Please send shipping address.

Customer:

Oh wow, I don’t know what to say. That’s extremely generous, thank you.
Yeah it’s a pain dealing with the fallout after the fire but we’re getting through it.
You can ship it to this address.   Thank you again!

Outdoorstirfry:

The product has shipped.  Tracking number is XXXX XXXX XXXX. 

A question on the propane tank in the fire,   did it get damaged or explode? 

Customer: 

I didn’t put them in the garage before the fire and had them outside. While the nearby trees burned, the propane tanks were totally fine! Well, except for their paper/plastic labels burning off. As in the label saying what brand they were (Blue Rhino, etc). I’m not sure what the propane tanks would have done if they were in the garage like the wok burner was. It might have leaked out gas (which would ignite ) but not exploder.
Some of the other things like an enamel dutch over had the enamel melt and bead up, but the iron underneath looked ok (no pics of that on my phone though).
I’ve attached a couple other photos if you’re curious.

Outdoorstirfry:  

Thank for additional photos.  From the wall mark next to the two propane tanks, it appears that the tanks leaked during the fire.  The leaked gas caught fire and caused the mark on the wall.   This makes sense as each tank inlet has rubber gasket.  When hot enough, the rubber gasket melted and the tank started to leak.  I’m glad that the tank has no tendance to explode.

Propane Tanks Surviving Eaton Fire 2025.

About your Dutch oven, cast iron can withstand a lot of heat.   Your photo of the PowerFlamer stove shows that all cast iron parts (burner, base and wind guard) are all intact.

During such fire, is resident allowed to defend the property his/herself?   Is the water pressure strong enough to give steady water for fire fighting purpose?   If there are so many people trying to use water, the water may not come to me.  

Customer: 

Happy to answer questions.   Residents are supposed to evacuate, but some stay behind and try to fight the fires themselves. Generally the water pressure from a garden hose is not enough to fight a fire, but it will help put out embers that land around the house. However, if the houses around you are all burning, the heat gets so bad that a garden hose won’t do. At that point, you’ll need a fire-fighting hose which uses MUCH more pressure. A bunch of people using garden hoses is probably fine. However if multiple fire hoses are being used, then the water pressure is affected. 

Also the burner arrived intact. I used it today to burn off the coating on my new wok, and season it. Thanks again! 

Inquiry: 

I have quite a few of cast iron pans. It is said that the Eaton fire was not just ash but many other contaminated materials in the air. Cadmium, lithium, led, asbestos, Etc. Do you think the pans and ovens that were subjected to these chemicals at very high heat will be useable again? If so how to proceed. Thanks!

Outdoorstirfry: 

We should not be treated as a scientific source on this matter.   If you come across any authority or expert explaining to your question, please share with us. 

All substances you listed can’t stick to your pan after fire.  They are either reduced to ashes or melted away already.   If you do a re-seasoning process on your cast iron pans, I think they should be clean and safe to re-use.   

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Introducing PowerFlamer Propane 160 Plus Stove Series.

WE have introduced a new PowerFlamer Propane 160 Plus series stove products with a bigger 6B burner.   A bigger 6B burner enables wider cooking area for better stir frying experience.   The series offers integrated electronic ignition and manual ignition options along with other selectable options such as long legs, stabilizers and cover etc.   For more detail and availability, please visit the product page.  

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Burnt ignition wire and rusted screws.

Customer (PF13CL160EI_Stabilizers)

Hello,  Since about 6 months ago in April/May I have had a problem with the wire for the igniter having come off.  I don’t know how it happen, but I am thinking it is perhaps heat related? Perhaps the igniter is not positioned correctly and too close to the main burner.  I also see an issue with the screws being very rusty, and wonder if this will become a bigger problem later and I won’t be able to replace them if they have gotten too rusty.  Can you advice me on how to best fix these issues? I don’t mind doing it myself, but if you can guide me on which screw sizes to get, and the cable used for the igniter, I would appreciate it very much.

If I can buy the parts from your store, that would be an appreciated option as well.  I have attached some photos and a short video showing the issues.   Best regards.

Outdoorstirfry: 

Thx for your photos and video showing your concerns. 

Regarding the ignition wire coming off from the white tip, please see attached on how to fix it. 

Regarding the rusted screw heads on top of main burner, your concern is thoughtful, those screws will need to be taken off if the burner top plate holes need cleaning.  Even if the top screw is rusted that a screwdriver is not helpful, there are two nuts at bottom of burner that can be loosened to get these two screws off.  Any new screws exposed to high heat will always rust.   We recommend leaving them as is.