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little confused about the difference in the configurable valves

Mark M. (PF13L160EI):  Hello. I’m a little confused about the difference in the configurable valves. Are the ‘bottles’ you refer to the 20lb tanks? Do they have different valves? Why would I need the configurable valve? Please explain.

outdoorstirfry.com:  Our regular stove comes with connector that connects to 20lbs tank.  In order for a stove to be able to connect to a 1lb bottle, we supply a configurable connector.  Hope this is clear.

Mark M.:  Got it. Thanks. I’ll be ordering my burner shortly. (2nd one) You should be seeing some more orders come through from the Rochester area soon. I’m a chef and have got a lot of other chefs here interested based on the burner I received from you last week.

 

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What’s the difference between PF13L and the PF13CL? Is it that the PF13CL uses another regulator for small propane bottles?

The difference between PF13L and PF13CL is that PF13CL can be configured to use a propane bottle besides a propane tank.  PF13L is only for propane tank.  We use the same regulator for both products.  The value of PF13CL resides in that it is light weight and people can easily take it to camping and other activities that a 20lbs propane tank is too cumbersome to bring along.

FAQ

Below are answers to some FAQ.  If you don’t see answer to your question, please use the search box at bottom of the page to search our site.   In case you cannot find answer by searching, you can always contact us.  

what is the last option of tank and bottle or just tank?

Inquiry: what is the last option of tank and bottle or just tank? I do not understand the difference between the two. Outdoorstirfry: “Tank and Bottle” option enables the burner to work with a 20lbs tank or a 1lb bottle. “Tank” option the burner can only work with a 20lbs tank.

I would like to know what the difference is between PF13L160 and PF13CL160.

Inquiry:  I would love to hear when they are back in stock. Also I would like to know what the difference is between those two. Outdoorstirfry:  You are in the to-be-notified list now. About the difference between PF13L160 and PF13CL160, PF13L160 will only work with a 20lbs propane tank.  PF13CL160 can work with a 20lbs […]

What is the difference between configurable and non configurable?

Inquiry: What is the difference between configurable and non configurable?  I did not understand the explanation. Outdoorstirfry: The non-configurable version can only work with a regular 20lb propane tank.  The configurable one can work with both 20lbs tank and 1lb propane bottle. Let us know if there is further question.

What is the difference in the pf13L130 and the pf13CL130?

Inquiry: What is the difference in the pf13L130 and the pf13CL130? Outdoorstirfry: PF13CL130 can be used to connect to both a 20lbs propane tank and a 1lb throw away propane bottle.   PF13L130 could only be connected to a 20lbs propane tank.

Difference between configurable and non-configurable stoves.

Inquiry: I have a standard backyard propane tank for my BBQ. Which of these do I order if I just want to attach it to my existing tank. I am a bit confused as to “configurable” vs “not configurable”. Does configurable mean have to buy and add an adaptor to your regulator before I can […]

why the Electronic Ignition is so much more expensive and does it worth it?

Inquiry: I’m interested to order your high pressure wok burner, I see you have 2 products in the list and the difference is basically Electronic Ignition or Manual Ignition (am I right?) while the price is different by $60. My question is why the Electronic Ignition is so much more expensive and does it worth […]

PowerFlamer questions

explain difference between manual and electronic ignitions, tank and bottle options.

PF160 MI or EI

Difference between PowerFlamer propane 160 manual and electronic ignition.

Flat Bottom Cookware Adaptor

The Flat Bottom Cookware Adaptor is only for PowerFlamer 130 stove. It does not work on PowerFlamer 160 stoves.

Flat Bottom Cookware Adaptor Question

No flat bottom cookware adaptor for PowerFlamer propane 160 and natural gas 160/120 stoves. Flat bottom cookware with diameter >13″ can be placed directly on top of the stove.

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Questions on PowerFlamer Stove Options.

Inquiry: 

Hi there. I’m looking to buy one of your PowerFlamer Propane 160 Stoves, and I’m hoping you can help me clarify some things. Is the IEI the only option that has the new 6″ burner? Is the manual EI the only option with a pilot light? If the electric starter on the IEI fails (they commonly do, right?), will you have to reignite between dishes with a lighter? The manual EI ignites with a turn-and-click sort of knob, and no lighter needed, right? Do you sell an option that has the new burner, is easy to start/stop between dishes, and without worry of that breaking? It seems like right now, you can only have the new burner, or a reliable ignition, but not both. But I don’t see why you’d move forward with the IEI if it were majorly flawed. Hoping you can help me understand… Separately, “tankandbottle,” what does this technically add to the stove? Is that an enhancement that I could add later if needed, or it has to be included up front?

Outdoorstirfry

Is the IEI the only option that has the new 6″ burner? – yes

Is the manual EI the only option with a pilot light? – the manual option is the only one having the pilot light.  The EI has an electronic ignition as the right knob. 

If the electric starter on the IEI fails (they commonly do, right?), will you have to reignite between dishes with a lighter? – You can use a long nose BBQ igniter if both IEI and EI electronic ignition fails.

The manual EI ignites with a turn-and-click sort of knob, and no lighter needed, right? – the EI right knob is for ignition.  You do not need a long nose BBQ ignitor when this is working.

Do you sell an option that has the new burner, is easy to start/stop between dishes, and without worry of that breaking? –  You can default to use manual BBQ igniter by ignoring the electronic function even for the IEI version.

It seems like right now, you can only have the new burner, or a reliable ignition, but not both. But I don’t see why you’d move forward with the IEI if it were majorly flawed. Hoping you can help me understand… – you are right, the IEI version is not flawed.

Separately, “tankandbottle,” what does this technically add to the stove? – please read https://outdoorstirfry.com/?s=tank+and+bottle+difference.

Is that an enhancement that I could add later if needed, or it has to be included up front? – yes.  There is an extra piece to connect to a 1lb bottle. 

Inquiry: 

Thanks so much for the fast reply. Quick follow up… So then, are you recommending the IEI for most people, since you consider the gen 2 to be a universal improvement over the EI? Like, the IEI has both the manual and electric ignitions, so you only need a long nose BBQ igniter if both fail? Is it easy enough to turn down the flame ultra low on the IEI, to the point where it’s basically approximating what the pilot would be? Or is it probably going to shut off completely when you try that?

Outdoorstirfry: 

IEI has only one knob.  There are customers who are used to indoor range and prefer single knob operation.  We would consider IEI more expensive, a bit more powerful than the EI.  IEI may not fit everybody’s budget.   Both IEI and EI have electronic ignition.  You can use long nose BBQ igniter to manual ignite the main burner in case the electronic ignition fails.  IEI does not have manual ignition and pilot light.  Burner flame of all PowerFlamer stoves (manual, EI and IEI) is continuously adjustable.  At minimum, they can be blown off by wind. 

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Where can I learn about the ordering page options?

Inquiry: 

Where can I learn about the ordering page options and choices such as tank or bottle and stabilizers and the leg sizes? Any information?  When you say tank, does it refer to propane tank?

Outdoorstirfry: 

A good place to start is the FAQ  under Support tab at https://outdoorstirfry.com/faq/.   At bottom of each webpage, there is a textbox to “Search Entire Site”, type in “difference tank and bottle” and see what you can get.   On each product page, scroll down a bit and click on “Additional Information” section, it should show product dimensions.  

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Some Questions for PowerFlamer Propane Stoves.

Inquiry: 

Hi – I had a few questions: on the IEI it says it cannot be reliably lighted so we should have a long igniter.
1, is it hard to ignite the non-IEI version or can we just have the non-IEI and long igniter?
2. what is the benefit of the IEI?
3. is the bottle just a small version of the tank or some other differences?
4. how much does the tank weigh, and how much does the bottle weigh?
5. do you sell the tanks and bottles or where can I buy them?

Outdoorstirfry: 

  1.  Same ignition problem exists for the regular electronic version (EI).  For any electronic ignition, it is usual to strike a few times before successful. 
  2. Please read https://outdoorstirfry.com/?s=difference+IEI+and+EI.
  3. Please read https://outdoorstirfry.com/?s=tank+and+bottle+difference.
  4. When full, the propane in a tank may weigh between 15~20lbs,  it weighs about 1lb in a bottle.
  5. We only sell stoves that work with tank/bottle.   We don’t sell tank or bottle.  You can get tank and bottle from any hardware store.
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Product questions

Inquiry:  

Inquiry: 

!) Why does, PowerFlamer Propane 160 – Long Lead Time, say “These stoves are the same as our regular PowerFlamer propane 160 except with long lead time from order to ship “. If its the same as your regular, then why should I buy the one with a long lead time (longer to receive ?) ? Then what is your “regular” PowerFlamer propane 160 ???

2) What is the thing made from? cast iron ??? Why wouldn’t you state what your product is made from???

3) The max BTU/hr is 160k BTU/Hr, but what is the max psi ??? why not state this in product description ???

4) What is tank or tank and bottle option ??? propane tank ? What is the bottle ???

5) Why doesn’t it tell me the shipping amount after i filled out all of the information to compute shipping? (shipping to Pennsylvania, 19067 USA)

6) I’m a serious buyer, but why is the description of your products so vague? Are you trying to save screen pixels ?

7) how long is the current lead time to USA ? Where are you located ?

Outdoorstirfry: 

  1.  Our regular PowerFlamer 160 products are meant to be fast ship – according to consumer’s norm – they expect the product to be ship right away after they place their order.  And we are not able to ship fast.  Therefore, we create this long lead time identical products such that there is no confusion or even outrage from paid customer. 
  2. Our stoves are made of various materials – cast iron, steel, galvanized etc.
  3. Our stoves run with various PSI to achieve their rated max power.
  4.  Please read https://outdoorstirfry.com/?s=tank+and+bottle+difference
  5. The shopping cart should be able to estimate the shipping cost after all information are filled.  For example, shipping charge is $38 to PA with one single bulky item like a PowerFlamer propane 160 stove.
  6. Comment from potential customers like you will make our description better along the time.
  7. 3 months.  California.