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PowerFlamer Stove height

Inquiry: 

Hello, I was going to order a PowerFlamer 160 but wanted to make sure of a couple things. I am building an outdoor kitchen and plan to have the counter at about 30-32 inches. Will setting the short leg model on a counter that high be uncomfortably high to use? I’m pretty tall (6′) so I think it’ll be ok, just want the expert opinion.

Alternatively, do you know if anyone has built one of these units into the counter of an outdoor kitchen? If so, any advice on how to do it?

Outdoorstirfry: 

Our long leg version height is 30″~32”.   Some of our tall customers (>6’) actually request another 6” in height to 36″~38” total height.  The criterion to judge is your elbow height.   When you hold the wok, you would prefer the stove + wok (~4”) total height to be a bit lower (~4″) than your elbow (with you standing on ground), such that when you lift the wok, your forearm is at the most comfortable position. 

We do have a lot of customers who build our products into their outdoor kitchens.  You usually get the short leg version, cut a hole that is a bit smaller that the top of the wind guard, such that the wind guard can sit into the hole. 

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PowerFlamer stove long leg height?

Customer (PF13L160EI): 

Hey, I don’t think I received the long legs that I ordered. I think I received the short legs.  These are 25” long and they don’t extend.  

Outdoorstirfry

The long leg each is 24”.   Entire long leg stove height is about 30~32”.  With wok, the wok handle should be about 36” in height which is normal person’s elbow height. 

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Indoor wok cooking?

Customer (PF13L160): 

Hello, I have a question for you.  Of course the PF 160 is my favorite way to cook, but sometimes I can’t cook outdoors (either because of rain, snow, or fire restrictions).   

What is your favorite setup to cook with a wok indoors?  Have you ever tried induction burners? 

I use a regular gas range with a 16,000 BTU burner, a large Wokmon focus ring, a 14” round bottom 2 mm thick carbon steel wok, and sometimes a few blasts from a Bernzomatic TS8000 blow torch.  Even with all this, of course I cannot achieve the same results as the PF 160, but I am striving to get as close as I can for when I have to cook inside.  I have never tried induction burners, but I believe they could be used with a flat-bottom wok, and I’ve also seen some specifically made for woks.  I’ve never tried other wok materials, but I’m curious about aluminum and copper for their thermal conductivity.

I hope you had a great weekend!

 

Outdoorstirfry: 

We advocate outdoor cooking because we don’t like grease building up indoor.   We only use our indoor gas range for boiling style of cooking.  We build a covered corner outdoor that we can cook year round.  

If you are not concerned about indoor grease build up along wall and surface, which we find difficult (if not impossible) to remove and clean, you can use much more powerful source to cook indoor.   Induction cooking to my impression is too slow.   You might prove to me that is not true anymore.  

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Height of the stove

Customer (PF13L160):

Thanks, that’s very exciting, can’t wait. Thanks very much for all your patience in answering my various questions. If I could ask one more, what would you say is the best height from ground to where wok will be placed (will that be about 110-120cm) and also if legs are not used how high is the unit so I can maybe already start working on a table to put the wok burner on separately as an alternative to the long leg option. Also will a wooden top be ok for that?

Outdoorstirfry:

The height is optimal when it is easy for your hand to operate the wok.   It is about your waist line.   We would not recommend combustible material under the stove or 1 foot around it.

A carbon Steel Wok, Spatula

For wok-hei stir-frying, a carbon steel wok can help.  We can supply the basic combination: a wok and a spatula. The carbon steel wok set is suitable for both PowerFlamer PF13 propane and natural series burners.  EasyFlamer EF13 series burners may need a wok ring to support such deep round bottom wok. The wok size is 14″. It has one long handle (7.5″) and weighs about 2.7 lbs. It has round bottom and the height is about 4″. The wok thickness is about 1.25mm.

The spatula is of stainless with plastic handle.

(CarbonSteelWSL)

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Wok thickness

Customer (PF13L160): 

Hello,  What thickness is the carbon steel of the 14″ wok you sell?   Also, I saw a 1mm 14″ wok for sale on another web site (carbon steel) – is that too thin for your wok burner? Thanks.

I have just received your wok burner the 160,000BTU one manual start. I am so keen to start using it.

My main object is to achieve the wok “hai” flavor. When I cook noodles etc. will the “hai”taste come automatically or do I have to visibly burn them a little to get that taste?

Many thanks!!!

Outdoorstirfry

Our wok thickness is close to 2mm.  The heavier the wok, it is easier to retain heat.  But of course it is heavy and sometime hard to handle. 

In term of the “wok hei”, can you read our page at https://outdoorstirfry.com/?page_id=399.   You will have to try it out yourself in term of getting the right amount of caramelization.

Customer

Thank you so much for your prompt reply.  Also thank you making such a great wok burner!  
 
Cheers and thanks,
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Outdoor wok stove questions.

Inquiry:

I’m interested in an outdoor wok stove, and I’m trying to decide which model to buy.  I have a few questions:
  • Would you recommend the electronic ignition or the manual ignition?  Is the electronic ignition reliable?  Would you consider electronic ignition to be safer than manual, or vice versa?
  • Is the 160 KBTU model the latest model and the 130 KBTU an older model?  Is there a reason to choose one over the other?
  • When will the 160 KBTU models be available?
Cheers.
Outoorstirfry:
Electronic ignition usually will fail in a couple years or so as the wire ages in an outdoor environment.   It will become intermittent at first.   We can’t guarantee that electronic ignition be reliable to ignite.  We always recommend to have a manual long nose BBQ igniter handy nearby.   Both electronic and manual stoves are safe.
We develop the 160 KBTU stove later than the 130 one.   We would choose the 160 one as it is more powerful and feature rich.
The estimate for 160 KBTU stove availability is June.   We have some pre-orders already.  Those will be fulfilled first.  And we have not decided for their price as we were hit by the imposed tariff.

Wok Ring Usage Examples

Our wok ring can sit on top of our EasyFlamer EF13xx50xx stove burner to provide support to deep wok.  See pictures below for examples:

wok ring on EF13xx50xx example 1

wok ring on top EF13xx50xx example 2

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wok burner stand

Inquiry:

Can you just sell me the stand ? The one with long legs.

Outdoorstirfry:

Which stand do you desire for which stove?   If you can provide picture of your stove which you want to fit into our stand, it would be much clearer for us to understand if they are compatible to each other.

Inquiry:

This is the one i got

PF13S160 Competitor 2016-3-23

Outdoorstirfry:
It is good to see your picture.   The base plate of our stove is different from the one in your picture.   Our base plate is able to accept 3 long legs as stand.   There are a few options here:

  1. Your picture looks brand new. If you have not used the stove, you can return it.    Then you can come and buy our long leg stove PF13L160;
  2. If you already used your stove, we can engineer 3 long leg adaptors onto your stove wind guard.   For this you will need to send in your stove wind guard.   The wind guard is heavy, depends on where you ship from, the postage to use may cost $20~$30.
  3. You can go buy a table dedicated for supporting your stove.

 

Let us know which one you choose.