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Am I choose the right stove?

Inquiry:

I have a 14 inch carbon steel wok, and wondering if the cooker I have chosen is the right one.  Pf9s130.  New to stir fry.   Variable heat, and propane 20 lb tank?   Manual ignited?

Outdoorstirfry:

A 14″ wok can be used with our PF9 series stove.  Please note that the heating area is only 9″ as the stove has a 9″ wind guard.   Usually people moves the wok from time to time during cooking to heat wider area.   If you desire a wider heating area, our 13″ stove is the next size up.

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Selling on Amazon?

Inquiry:

Hello, I wish I had found your propane wok burners before I got my King Kooker 24WC. That’s a model which is easy to find because it’s on Amazon and marketed widely.

The one thing that’s hard to know ahead of time is that the 54,000 BTU of the King Kooker (and others) sometimes isn’t enough heat. So a larger batch of vegetables will start accumulating vegetable juices at the bottom of the wok since there isn’t enough heat to flash it off.
It seems like your burners are the only ones on the market that deliver enough heat to prevent that.

Outdoorstirfry:

thx for the advice. We will investigate the possibility.
We have put out 3 products on Amazon. You can find them at http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=outdoorstirfry. Thanks for your advice.

Inquiry:

I hope that being on Amazon can increase the awareness of your wok burners. At the moment when I search on “propane wok” it appears on page 3. It takes time to scale a business and if you use internet media effectively (especially social media) people will be able to find your burners. With what’s currently on the market I know that others experience the same thing that I do when stir frying a larger amount of vegetables, i.e. the burner can’t supply enough heat and eventually you wind up with a cup of liquid at the bottom of the wok. Then your vegetables end up tasting boiled and not stir fried.
One of these days I would like to have a high BTU burner (higher than the 54,000 version that I have now). Thanks.

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Why buy your burner?

Inquiry:

I am going to buy a wok burner. I would like to know why I should buy yours over other ones that are half the price, such as the Rambo burner or India Joze for $xxx? Please tell me how your product is supperior.

Outdoorstirfry:

Can you provide a link of this Rambo burner or India Joze for us to study before answering your question?

Inquiry:

Here is the link to India Joze http://www.indiajoze.com/equipment.html

Outdoorstirfry:

Thanks for the link.  From the look, it does look almost the same as our PF13S160 stove.   Here are the differences:

1.  We use difference regulator and hose.  Our regulator PSI setting might be different and our hose is stainless braided.

2.  We provide mesh preventing spider to create blockage inside burner pipe.

3.  Our stove base plate is our own patent design, which makes long leg version possible.

4.  Our stove can be converted to taking gas from 1lb propane bottle.

5.  Our latest burner top plate is held down by two bolts.

6.  We stand behind and provide service to our customers for the last 16 years in business.

Bests

Inquiry:

I would really like for you to earn my business, however it is difficult to justify and $80 just for legs or even $xx just for your patented base plate. How sturdy are the legs once on the burner? They do seem somewhat of a light gauge of metal to be supporting that much weight and not falling over when the chef is tossing food in the wok. Please let me know what your thoughts are on all this.

Outdoorstirfry:

The construction of the stove is designed to handle up to 35lbs of food in the wok.   It is sturdy enough to withstand tossing food.   Tossing is quite popular in cooking show however it is rarely used in home cooking as it requires quite extensive clean up afterward.

Inquiry:

Do you hand hammer the woks as well? Or do you outsource them?

Outdoorstirfry:

Unfortunately we do not know how to hammer out a wok.  We do source woks from our vendor.  In US there is still a region/group of people who hammer much bigger wok.  The much bigger wok is used in Mexican or southern type of cuisine, not stir frying.

We have a post at https://outdoorstirfry.com/?p=1357 offering comparable price to competition.   In this case we can match the $xxx price for our PF13S160 in case you are interested.

Inquiry:

I understand about the woks. I am solely interested Asian cuisine so I will get the wok that you recommend with the appropriate size burner.

I am interested in the PF13L160

Outdoorstirfry:

Our web site shows a difference between a PF13L160 and PF13S160 as $xx.  We are able to extend $xxx for a PF13L160 for you.  If you provide your shipping address, we would be able to estimate the shipping cost for you.

In terms for wok, we only carry ~14” wok.  This is chosen for best wok-ing experience (small with lower weigh, heat up fast, toss is possible).   Among all woks we offer, we recommend the carbon steel type as it has long handle which is easier to maneuver during cooking.

Inquiry:

I will like it shipped to xxxx Kxxxxxx Ave. xxxxx xxxxx, xx xxxxx

I think I will go with the carbon steel wok and tools, or do you recommend I order from the WokShop.com to get the best heavy duty wok and tools?

Outdoorstirfry:

Shipping to xx xxxxx will be $xx.  Since this is a special deal, you can’t use our web site pay button.  Please go to https://www.paypal.com to send $xxx to sales@outdoorstirfry.com.  Once received, we will process the order.  Usually the order will be shipping within two working days after order is placed.

WokShop.com has quite high reputation in offering woks, although I personally do not have experience with.  Order from them and please share your experience with us after a while of usage.

Inquiry:

Excellent, I will do that shortly.

What size wok do you recommend I get? They make anything from 12” to 14” and 16” of course I will get the carbon steel wok like you recommended.

Outdoorstirfry:

Either 14” or 16” will do.  Since the stove is 13”, it might burn the handle of a 12” wok.

Inquiry:

Do you know anything about MANniu burners?

Outdoorstirfry:

I found a few threads from google on this MANniu burner.  It is about the same as PF13L160 stove.  By the way MANniu burner gives its flame, it might violate our patent in USA.

Inquiry:

Alright, well I saw a few videos of it on YouTube and it looks really nice. I suppose I can just paint the cast iron burner from you black if I wanted?

Outdoorstirfry:

There are high temperature black paints from Homedepot, either spray or paint type.

Inquiry:

Great, well that’s what I’ll do then. I will be place the order in the next couple of days.

Inquiry:

I am looking for a photo of the burner I am buying but cant find one. Can you please send me a photo from the top of your burner look down onto it.

I’ve been researching your product along with ones that are similar, and have come to the conclusion that the 100,000 BTU’s is incorrectly stated. Now, please correct me if I’m wrong your burner set up the way it is will only put out 76,800 BTU’s and if you had a copper nozzle it would still only put out 91,200 BTU’s. Please enlighten me if I am mistaken.

Also, if I desired to do so is there any way to change out the burner tip to something like a duck bill burner or multi-jet burner in the future?

Outdoorstirfry:

Attached is a picture of our burner.  PF13L160 Burner 2015-8

We are curious how you derive your numbers.  Can you share your derivations to arrive at 76,800 and 91,200?

The stove body should be able to support any kind of burner if you desire to change.

Inquiry:

$$$ is sent

Here is one of the burners I was telling you about that only has 32k btu’s (Sorry outdoorstirfry.com can’t show proprietary picture)

Here is the link to how I arrived at those numbers http://www.thundergroup.com/app/stx.productdetail.asp?did=1413

Please take a look and let me know what your thoughts are.

Outdoorstirfry:

Thanks for a couple links showing your concerns on stove power levels from various sources.   Sometimes without engineering expertise, people will just listen or do a test without correct setting of the stove, thus arriving with a different number than ours.

Attached is our derivation from our vendor’s spec.  Our vendor’s spec is in Chinese.  Nevertheless it shows how we arrive at 160kBTU/Hr rating.

Let us know further question.

Customer:

Alright, I’m excited about using my new burner. Please give me an update when the package is sent.

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Improve article – add degrees Celsius next to the Fahrenheit degrees

Inquiry:

Hi,  Since the article (https://outdoorstirfry.com/?page_id=399) is one of the very few GOOD articles about the two techniques of Stir-Frying, I would like to ask you to also add degrees Celsius next to the Fahrenheit degrees because most of the people work with that.  Please 😉  Tnx and greetings!

Outdoorstirfry:  Thx for pointing this out.  We have updated the article.  Bests.

Inquiry:

tnx very much 🙂  Because I’ve written most of the Dutch stir-frying Wikipedia article and being a fan and intrigued by stir-frying since my youth, I’m very happy with the information you give on your website.

It’s very strange how little knowledge people, even professionals, have with stir-frying.

There even was a ‘situation’ when the Chinese President came to the Netherlands to the Rijksmuseum (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rijksmuseum) during the Nuclear Security Summit held in the Netherlands in 2014 (http://media.dumpert.nl/foto/973e2c07_ANP_26735827.jpg) and demanded to have his own cooks prepare dinner. However, there was no gas in the kitchen, due to security reasons (fire) and his cooks said they could not stir-fry properly without gas, I even think they demanded propane gas instead of the generally available natural gas in here. And as you know, natural gas is just not good enough for high temperature!

Well, end of story, Xi got his way and right he was 😉

What I would be happy just to be in that kitchen watching the cooks stir-frying!! It’s actually just 300m from my house you know 🙂

Well, thanks again for your modifications and information on your website!

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Selling on Amazon?

Inquiry:    Hello,  I wish I had found your propane wok burners before I got my King Kooker 24WC. That’s a model which is easy to find because it’s on Amazon and marketed widely.

The one thing that’s hard to know ahead of time is that the 54,000 BTU of the King Kooker (and others) sometimes isn’t enough heat. So a larger batch of vegetables will start accumulating vegetable juices at the bottom of the wok since there isn’t enough heat to flash it off.

It seems like your burners are the only ones on the market that deliver enough heat to prevent that.

Answer:  thank for the advice.  We will investigate the possibility.

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My PF13S160 wok burner was delivered to the UK within 7 days.

From T. M.:

My PF13S160 wok burner was delivered to the UK within 7 days. I took it to Calor [bottled gas suppliers]. They confirmed the regulator would fit UK propane cylinders and supplied a 19kg cylinder [which will deliver maximum output].

I secured the bottle to a sack truck [as shown] so that the bottle and burner could be wheeled to a shed for storage.

The whole setup is superb. It is fully controllable and worth the carriage cost as there is no UK supplied equivalent which comes close to the burner’s output [160.000 Btu or 46 kW]. I shall be purchasing another burner in the near future for a family member.

Kind regards

[A very happy customer]

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Your product description says that the 9 inch 50k power flamer has thermal protection for the propane tank. Can you explain this in more detail?

Question:

Your product description says that the 9 inch 50k power flamer has thermal protection for the propane tank. Can you explain this in more detail?

Answer:

The PF9xx50 stove uses the first adaptor as in this article https://outdoorstirfry.com/?p=840. It is an ACME type I connector which turn off when there is excessive heat.

Question:

Thanks for your prompt response.   As follow up, What is the largest and smallest wok that can be used with the 9 inch products? Also, I will use it at home, beach, camping so I like the ability to regulate the temperature on the low end for non-wok cooking flexibility. Is the PF9xx50 a good choice for this application?

Answer:

A good wok size for PF9 stove is from 12″ to 14″.   PF9xx50 is a good choice for your usage.

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Can a stove be upgraded to a configurable stove?

Inquiry:

I am about to purchase a PF13L160. If I ever feel a need in the future to use it with a disposable propane tank, can I purchase a fitting later on to connect the stove to a disposable tank. I know I can buy a configurable model now, but I suspect I may never see a need to connect it to a disposable tank, so I may just be throwing money away if I buy the configurable model now.

Answer:

You can buy the adaptor for the 1lb propane bottle later.  The difference of buying it now as part of a configurable stove and later is that it takes another postage if purchased alone.   We do not put this adaptor as an accessory on our web site.  When you need it, you can also contact with us directly in email or from our web site contact form.

Inquiry:

Thank you so much for your very quick reply.  I have spent a lot of time on your website and have to say that your stoves look quite impressive.

After looking through your models, it seems to me that the PF13L160 offers the greatest power and flame adjustability.

Although I can understand why some people might want electronic ignition, stoves with EI appear to be more limited in their flame adjustability, and the EI components may fail over time anyway.  Did I assess this correctly?

Lastly, there is possibility that I might use the stove to cook for a lot of people at outdoor sports events.  My son is on a high school rowing team, and we typically feed as many as 200 people at regattas, not at one sitting but in smaller groups throughout the day.  I presently have a 16″ wok which I am sure would work fine on the PF13L160.   But if I wanted to acquire a larger diameter wok, how much larger could I use on the PF13L160?

Answer:

What you say in the first 3 paragraphs is true.  Since our stove is built to enable people to tilt their wok during cooking, you might be able to go up to 22″.   During cooking when you feel needing to heat area far from center of flame, you can tilt the wok for this purpose.

To be frank, if you do not plan to handle so many people, the smaller the wok, the better cooking experience you will have.   You will be able to heat up ingredients instantly, tilt or toss to exchange heat quickly.

Inquiry:

Thanks again.  I just placed my order.