Inquiry:
I am very interested in the PowerFlamer 160 but I have some questions, it said something about the electronic ignition not being reliable, does this mean the built-in pilot doesn’t work that well, or does it mean that it’s best to have a manual lighter nearby to light it the first time? What is the difference between the Plus and the non Plus variant?
Is the flat shipping rate to Europe the only costs or do extra customs tax gets added?
Outdoorstirfry:
Electronic ignition stove does not have a pilot. Electronic ignition is convenient to ignite the main burner without additional igniter. However, the ignition flame needs to be turned off after main burner is lit, to protect its electric wire insulation. Once the electronic ignition fails, you can always use a long nose BBQ igniter to ignite the main burner directly.
Pilot only exists in our manual ignition stoves. The main burner of a manual stove is lit by a long nose BBQ igniter first. Then the pilot can be lit by the main burner and adjusted. Between dishes, the pilot can stay to help ignite the main burner for subsequent dish cooking. Pilot flame length can not be long to interfere with the main burner flame. One issue is that short pilot flame is susceptible to wind.
For difference between 160 and 160 plus, please read https://outdoorstirfry.com/faq/what-is-the-difference-between-the-powerflamer-160-and-the-powerflamer-160-plus/. 160 plus is new and we are in process of optimizing it. 160 is fully optimized and should provide the better cooking experience at this point of time.
The flat shipping rate is to cover shipping costs charged by the shipping carrier. At import time, you will be asked to pay for import duty, VAT and brokerage fee etc.
Inquiry:
What would you recommend, the manual or electric ignition? I do turn off the burner a bunch of times so a pilot flame would be nice to have. Also, is it treated for rust or is it bare cast iron?
Outdoorstirfry:
The stove surface is with paint resistant to high temperature. However, those paint areas with flame will burn off and left with bare iron.
If you cook more than 1 dish, pilot is nice to have. Electronic strike for each dish cooking isn’t that much a hassle either, without needing to find that piece of long nose BBQ igniter. The last resort is the main burner which can be turned down to low flame between dish cooking in case pilot windblown or electronic ignition failed.
Inquiry:
Most of the time when I stir fry, I aim to make about 8-14 portions (fried rice for instance). It takes me about 3-5 batches for this amount, I’m hoping a better burner would fix this.
Outdoorstirfry:
More powerful burner should help. What are you using now? Maybe a link is helpful for us to understand.
Inquiry:
Here’s a link to the product, I Don’t know if the site will work since it’s Dutch. https://vuurenrook.nl/en/products/gas-wok-branders-stoves-50491601
Outdoorstirfry:
Thank for your link. The stove in your link is about 20kBTU/Hr max in our experience. This is not a bad stove to use.
Inquiry:
Would the stir fry capacity increase with the wok? I don’t mind spending money, but tax and customs feels like I’m getting scammed haha.
Also, how is the build quality? Are there a lot of (possible) defects? If something were to happen to it while in transit, is this covered by some kind of warranty?
Outdoorstirfry:
In theory, you can cook more if the stove is more powerful. Unfortunately, we can’t do anything to tax and duty etc. We will send replacement parts if thing is damaged during transit.
Inquiry:
Is it possible to get a video of the difference between the electric and manual ignition? Or do you recommend one?
Outdoorstirfry:
Please watch https://outdoorstirfry.com/how-to-start-a-powerflamer-propane-160-electronic-ignition-stove-both-ignition-flame-and-main-burner-flame/?v=0b3b97fa6688 for electronic ignition version. Please watch https://outdoorstirfry.com/how-to-start-a-powerflamer-propane-160-manual-stove-both-pilot-and-main-burner-flames/?v=0b3b97fa6688 for the manual version.
For long lasting/reliability, we would recommend manual. For convenience, we would recommend electronic version.
Inquiry:
Oh that’s great thanks! I hate to ask this, but, how’s the build quality? I don’t know anyone who owns one of these and I can’t see/feel it in real life. Are there common problems or anything? How long have you been making these and what’s the oldest still working one?
I apologize for all these questions, I always thoroughly check everything.
Outdoorstirfry:
I can’t comment on the quality as different people have different standards. Also our quality would keep improving as it is the case in our history longer than 20 years. There are some common problems like https://outdoorstirfry.com/customer-feedbacks/white-on-paint-and-smoke-questions/. The paint should be the same as your other stove, dark gray.
Inquiry:
That’s fair. Do you know of customer that’s been using a 160 for that long as well? Do you sell replacement parts? Is there something that needs replacing within a few years that I can order with it? Are the legs aluminum?
Is it possible to take the legs of and make a stove for it? Is it stable without the legs? Once more, thanks for your time and patience
Outdoorstirfry:
We sell 160 stoves for over 20 years. Of course, the look of it was dramatically different than it is now. We are still support those if people want to maintain them. You can contact us if problem occurs.
The long legs, if tighten, should provide stable support to the stove. The long legs are galvanized steel. They can be detached, and the resulting short leg version can be placed on a table and should be functional fully.
