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Difference in 160 and 120 PowerFlamer natural gas stoves

Customer (PF13LFN160): 

hi- i’m struggling to find more information on the site about the product i just purchased- which was the natural gas 160 with long legs. can you help me understand the difference between the 160 and the 120 natural gas options? does either model feature a pilot light or electronic ignition? would it be possible to remove the long legs on the model i purchased by unscrewing them? (it looks like they’re removable/adjustable) any help would be appreciated. 

Outdoorstirfry: 

Difference between 160 and 120 natural gas stoves – different in power rating, 160 is for fixed installation where you need to purchase a yellow stainless hose from your local hardware store.  120 goes with a quick connector sets and hose but with reduced power. 

Both stoves have a pilot light which needs manual ignition.  The long legs are detachable.   

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Position of tank and wok support ring

Customer (PF13L160EI): 

I have a question about my newly purchased PowerFlamer Propane 160 (Item# PF13L160EI) with Long Leg Stabilizer: For Long Leg Stoves (Item# TwoLegStabilizers).

Is it ok and safe to place the propane tank below the stove to weight down the leg stabilizer? 

Where should this (see attached picture) be position? Towards the user or opposite side? Is it called a wind guard? 

Outdoorstirfry: 

Every time before ignition, you will turn on the tank.  At that time please be diligent in noticing any leak.  If there is any hissing sound or smell of gas before ignition or opening of stove side valves, a leak check is necessary.  After leak proof, it is OK to place the tank under the stove.   Anyway the tank can’t be far away from the stove.  Isn’t placing it beside the stove the same as underneath?

The wok support ring you are pointing to has ¼ of its perimeter a high up rail.  You should place your wok handle there to prevent burner flame coming out to hurt your hand.

Customer: 

Thank you for the additional information.  Two more question if I may. 🙂 

I think I read in the FAQ that the electric ignition version I have does NOT have a pilot light? I will have to spark to light each time the main burner is turned off? 

To be honest, the electric ignition isn’t very good and I am now using a long nose BBQ lighter instead. If I knew this, I would have ordered the manual version and saved the extra cost for accessories. A pilot light is more useful.  Thank you!

Outdoorstirfry: 

You are right.  The electronic ignition can NOT serve as a pilot flame.  Usually you need a few strikes to get one flame successful.   The first few strikes are to fill up the copper tube with gas.  

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Air fuel mixing for Powerflamer natural stove

Customer (PF13LQN120): 

I can’t see a way to adjust the air mix on the Powerflamer 120 quick connect. There is a galvanized 3/8 pipe the attaches directly to the burner, but no air adjustment. Can you point to the air shutter for me?

Outdoorstirfry: 

For PF13xQN120 natural gas stove, there is no air/fuel mixing wheel.   Individual jet burner on the burner ring mixes themselves.  Do you have soot problem?

Customer: 

Yes, the burners produce a lot of soot on the bottom of the wok.

Outdoorstirfry: 

The jet burners (16 in total) burn cleanly if their holes are not blocked by spider web or things.  So please check if all jet burner center holes plus their side holes (to let air in) are all not blocked by anything.

Then limit the pilot flame length to around 0.5”.   If the pilot flame is allowed to be too long, it will not burn clean and produce soot.  Let us know any update.

Customer: 

Thanks, I will try.  The pilot flame is quite long at fully open.  I’ll limit it and see if that helps.

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Indoor wok cooking?

Customer (PF13L160): 

Hello, I have a question for you.  Of course the PF 160 is my favorite way to cook, but sometimes I can’t cook outdoors (either because of rain, snow, or fire restrictions).   

What is your favorite setup to cook with a wok indoors?  Have you ever tried induction burners? 

I use a regular gas range with a 16,000 BTU burner, a large Wokmon focus ring, a 14” round bottom 2 mm thick carbon steel wok, and sometimes a few blasts from a Bernzomatic TS8000 blow torch.  Even with all this, of course I cannot achieve the same results as the PF 160, but I am striving to get as close as I can for when I have to cook inside.  I have never tried induction burners, but I believe they could be used with a flat-bottom wok, and I’ve also seen some specifically made for woks.  I’ve never tried other wok materials, but I’m curious about aluminum and copper for their thermal conductivity.

I hope you had a great weekend!

 

Outdoorstirfry: 

We advocate outdoor cooking because we don’t like grease building up indoor.   We only use our indoor gas range for boiling style of cooking.  We build a covered corner outdoor that we can cook year round.  

If you are not concerned about indoor grease build up along wall and surface, which we find difficult (if not impossible) to remove and clean, you can use much more powerful source to cook indoor.   Induction cooking to my impression is too slow.   You might prove to me that is not true anymore.  

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Possible Leak

Customer (PF13L160EI): 

First of all I really love my new stir ry. I have had a lot of success with every experiment.  A couple family members were concerned about a possible leak with the high pressure regulator. I know the hole is there. Is it possible there’s a link? How can I test?  Thanks so much.

Outdoorstirfry: 

The hole is there for safety purpose, to vent the gas fuel out if the regulator fails.   When you smell gas before starting up the stove, please do not light up the stove, check for leak first.   Sometime the gas gushing out from the hole also makes noise, brings to your attention that there is a leak.

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Connecting Hose for PowerFlamer propane 160

Customer (PF13L160): 

Is it recommended to use Teflon tape or and other material when connecting the gas line to the burner? I know it is not needed for the plastic fitting to the propane tank.

Outdoorstirfry: 

Within the hose brass fitting that goes to the burner valve side, there is a rubber washer.   You can just screw it on to the valve inlet and tighten it. 

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No gas to the stove

Customer: 

I have not used the wok burner that I ordered below in several years since we moved and it had been stored outside and was quite rusted. However, I cannot get any gas to come out now when trying to use it again. Is it likely that I just need to tighten the regulator into the propane tank tighter? Or that the regulator is broken/rusted too much? Is there anything after the regulator that can really “break”?

Outdoorstirfry: 

Can you send us some pictures of your setup?   If the regulator has a POL type connector to the tank, it might just need further tightening into the tank.  See step #10 on page 3 of the user installation guide.   Regulator can break under tank pressure.  It might age outdoor but you usually should hear it is making noise leaking gas, opposite to what the problem you are facing. 

Customer: 

thank you so much for that advice. It works fine after I really tightened the regulator onto the tank hard using channel lock pliers! 

Outdoorstirfry: 

Thank you for letting us know.  POL connector on those regulator is harder to work with tank here.  This is why we try to switch out to use ACME type 1 QCC type in the newer product. 

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Feedback from a customer

Customer (PF13L160): 

Our family appreciates it so much, we’ve used it primarily since we got it, and it’s been one of the most worth it, buy it for life, things we’ve ever bought, and we don’t have a ton of money, we have to be choosy on what we save for and buy. We have never been so impressed and pleased with something that helps us feed our family.

Robert Sutton Chicken Broccoli
Chicken Broccoli

 

Outdoorstirfry: 

Thank you for choosing our product with your precious money.   Raising a family has its tough time.  Raising the kids to good ones is even more challenging.  We are glad that your kids are playing around you.  

We realize that we are helping people changing their life style with our products.   As long as you are using our product and we are in business, we will do our best to support. 

Your dish look delicious!

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don’t understand how to turn on the pilot

Customer (PF13L160EI): 

I have the wok and have been using it. I don’t understand how to turn on the pilot without having to use an external flame? Could you please help.

Outdoorstirfry: 

For your stove, the right knob is for electronic ignition.   After the tank is turned on and hearing two clicks or wait for about half minute, you can turn the right knob by about 90 degrees.  Along this 90 degree turn, you should hear hissing sound indicating gas coming out from the ignition small copper tube.  By 90 degrees turn of the knob you should hear a click sound from the piezoelectric within the electronic ignition head.  At the same time, you should see a spark at the tip of the ignition small copper tube.  By 3~4 tries you might be able to get one spark to ignite the gas to a flame to shoot to the top of the main burner.   Hope this helps.

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Rust

Customer: 

My last gen PF 160 has acquired quite a bit of rust. Does this pose a. danger when in use? If so, if there anything you recommend for removing rust?

Outdoorstirfry: 

Cast iron exposed to environment eventually should rust.   Beside the look, it does not pose any danger at all.  In fact people uses cast iron wok to cook. 

You can use a steel brush to remove the rust before painting it in case you want to re-paint.