Inquiry:
I am interested in the Powerflamer 160 long leg manual ignition model. Is it correct to assume that this model can also be used on a table top minus the leg extensions? Does the Powerflamer 160 get hot on the table surface? would I need to protect the table?
Outdoorstirfry:
The long legs can be detached from a long leg stove. The result is a short leg version that can sit on top of a non-combustible table. The table top needs to be non-combustible.
Inquiry (Dec 25, 2024):
What is the difference between the PowerFlamer 160 and the PowerFlamer 160 Plus?
Outdoorstirfry (Dec 25, 2024):
The main difference between PowerFlamer propane 160 and Plus is the burner size. PowerFlamer Propane 160 has our optimized 5B burner. PowerFlamer Propane 160 Plus utilizes a bigger 6B burner. There is an article comparing both burners by a customer at https://outdoorstirfry.com/customer-feedbacks/burner-comparison-among-powerflamer-propane-160-stoves/. Both offer manual ignition option. For electronic ignition option, PowerFlamer Propane 160 offers the traditional separate knob ignition option while the Plus incorporates the integrated ignition option by one single knob.
Max power rating for both should be the same. PowerFlamer propane 160 plus has our new 6B burner. Its flame pattern and adjustment are not perfect. We expect 1~2 years to improve. PowerFlamer 160 has our optimized 5B burner. Its flame and adjustment are optimally tuned.
Inquiry (Feb 11, 2026):
According to this page you’ve been working on getting the new model better, has it been done?
Outdoorstirfry (Feb 11, 2026):
No fully done but already has significant improvement. This usually takes ~2 years.
Inquiry (Feb 11, 2026):
Thanks. Is it something I can buy now and fine-tune later myself or we’d have to wait until you’re completely done with improvement?
Outdoorstirfry (Feb 11, 2026):
No problem for the stove to be functional for now. As we provide continue to support the products, there is no worry to buy for now. Improvements in the future will benefit long term reliability/robustness/maintenance free, more on quality side.
Inquiry (Feb 12, 2026):
How is the burner on the 160EI PLUS vs the 160 EI. Any issues with the flame on the 6 inch or is the 5 inch the way to go on reliability?
Outdoorstirfry (Feb 12, 2026):
The comparison link I sent in earlier email https://outdoorstirfry.com/faq/what-is-the-difference-between-the-powerflamer-160-and-the-powerflamer-160-plus/ applies to any EI version as well. Improvement for EI plus version is the same to manual plus version.
Inquiry:
1. Do natural gas and liquid propane models provide same btu’s?
2. Can I adjust flame height easily while cooking?
3. I am looking for real wok hei and will cook outside with either. What setup/model will give me most professional results?
Serious inquiry–thank you 🙂
Outdoorstirfry:
Inquiry:
Hi, planning to purchase for my son in law. however, unsure decision on short legs or long legs, this is out of my area of expertise and what to be sure to purchase properly. On reviews the legs are stated to be more industrial and perhaps people are switching them out. ? support welcome. Thank you.
Outdoorstirfry:
Short leg version is for tabletop cooking. People put the short leg version on table or into a stove stand.
Long legs enable the stove to stand on the ground. People usually have a table beside the stove for spices, sauces etc.
Inquiry:
Hello, Can you please tell me what material the PowerFlamer is made of? Does it have a coating of paint? Can the PowerFlamer rust? What is the difference between a bottle and a tank? Thanks.
Outdoorstirfry:
PowerFlamer stoves are made of cast iron. It can rust if exposed to rain/snow/humidity. On the surface it has a paint coating that prevents water to contact with the iron. Area without paint will always rust first.
For difference between bottle and tank, please read https://outdoorstirfry.com/?s=tank+and+bottle.
Inquiry:
Hello. Does the PowerFlamer Propane 160 with electric ignition allow for pilot light? If so, can the pilot light remain on while cooking if you need to turn the main burner off and then back on? Thank you
Outdoorstirfry:
Pilot flame feature is only present on our manual stoves. Electronic ignition flame on any electronic ignition stove needs to be shut off after main burner is lit to protect the ignition wire insulation.
Inquiry:
If you don’t mind me asking a question, with the leg stabilizer is it pretty sturdy enough to do wok tossing? Or if I decide to put it on a hard surface (i.e. table) instead of using leg, would it be safe enough to do wok tossing without the burner moving?
Outdoorstirfry:
When tossing, we always advise to lift the wok fully up away from the stove before tossing. This should release the stove from being affected. Purposely tossing by using the stove edge, even with the stove stabilizers properly installed under heavy objects or short leg version on a table, will end up the stove falling over, creating a fire hazard. However, we understand that tossing can’t be perfect every time, the stove should be able to handle slight carry-away situation with stabilizers under heavy objects or a short leg stove sitting on a table.
We have customers building the short leg version stove into their outdoor cooking surface (mostly a thick concrete piece) by cutting a hole on the cooking surface and sinking the stove fully down into the hole. In this way the stove edge can by fully utilized for tossing as the entire stove is secured by a sturdy heavy cooking surface. This is like a restaurant cooking surface seen in most videos for tossing.
Inquiry:
I’d honestly prefer a manual ignition over anything electronic that may fail over time but the redditor’s review on the improvements with the 6B burner vs the 5B has me contemplating on the IEI version. Are there any plans on 6B with manual ignition?
Outdoorstirfry:
There are a few reasons why we don’t offer manual option on the 6B burner.
In a nutshell, 6B burner can be treated as a manual one after the electronic ignition fails.
Inquiry:
Hello, Please help me understand some things. To build a complete working set up. For example a power burner 160 with short legs( maybe none).
Does this burner fit into and sit atop of the stainless cart ( if wheels were included)?
Also the 160 has the two ring burner right? A inner and a larger outer circular flame?
Also with both models whether electronic ignition or manual the pilot light once ignited is always available to engage the burner as needed?
Just trying to understand everything.
I’ve dreamed about something like this since the late 80’s. Thanks for your response
Outdoorstirfry:
Only our PowerFlamer propane 160 short leg stoves can sit on the stainless stand. Stand wheel is an option you can order. Our standard 5B burner has 2 rings of flames, both are circular with outer larger flame. The manual stove has a pilot flame which can stay lit during cooking. The electronic version has an electronic ignition. The electronic ignition flame needs to be turned off to protect its wire insulation after igniting the main burner.
Customer (PF13S160IEI+Stand):
My control knob just broke (just the little plastic round piece you put on top of the metal pole with a slit). Can you please send me a new one to: XXX Thanks.
Outdoorstirfry:
can you send a picture of it? We need to make sure to send out the right part.
Customer:
It goes on top of this part. The wheels don’t stay in, 2 of the wheels fell out and made the stand fall and the plastic spinning part broke.
Outdoorstirfry:
On the knob, thank for your picture, we know now and will send a replacement. Please supply your phone number for shipping purpose. We wonder how two stand wheels fell out. Each stand wheel has about 2” of plastic thread to screw into a stand leg. Can you provide pictures of how you attach the wheels to the stand legs for us to understand?
Customer:
My phone number is XXX. When you use it, or try to roll it over a doorway, bump, or a rug, etc. or if you try a very light wok toss, the cart shakes or gets lifted just enough for 1-2 wheels to come out and it falls. When it falls, stuff falls. I’ve already lost 2 woks full of food. The distance of small bump causes that inch or 2 to slide up and the wheel drops anytime u try to put 1 wheel back in, another comes out. It’s a disaster. They don’t stay in. I need to glue them or something for it to work.
Outdoorstirfry:
Thank for the phone number. We will provide tracking information at ship time for the knob. Thank for providing more information on how the cart falls. I still don’t fully understand where the stand comes off. Can you share which area, joint 1 or joint 2, comes off in below picture during your tossing/lifting?
Customer:
Sometimes joint 1 comes out also, but I am referring to joint 2. I intend to stick glue all over the black parts of the wheels inside the housing then stick them back into joint 2. I had to just take the wheels off until I glue them, it’s too dangerous to use it otherwise as they are not secured.
Outdoorstirfry:
Thank you for your further explanation. I guess joint 1 is more secured than joint 2 because of the stove weight. If you put in a weight on the lower shelf, like below picture, do you think that it might be more secure? Gluing is always good to apply.
Customer:
it won’t really help, the weight and it’s ugly and a problem to deal with. When I have to go over a rug or doorway, a slightly lifted leg causes it to come out, weight or no weight. Also, I don’t want to keep moving a weight to use this. It sits in my kitchen and I roll it out to use it but when I go over the rugs and door way, the wheels fall out and I need to use that shelf for ingredients and stuff. When I go up and down in this area for the rugs and door way bump this is when they keep falling out. I’m going to use powerful glue i guess. I’ve dumped plates of food and oil onto the ground outside a couple times now over this. And the fire is still on and it’s dangerous.
Outdoorstirfry:
We are shipping you two knobs in case there will be another future accident. USPS tracking is XXX.
Thank you for your pictures on how you use the stand and stove. The stand is not designed for frequent movements. For your use, strong glue is a good choice for both joints 1 and 2 locations. Yet a better one is to drill hole through these two joint areas such that a bolt/nut can apply there. I understand that drilling on a cylindrical surface is hard if not impossible. You can use a clamp to flatten the area a bit before drilling.
When we started cooking outdoor more than 20 years ago,, the stove we made (like the one here https://outdoorstirfry.com/product/powerflamer-propane-130/) stayed outdoor. We had a white plastic cart on wheels having 3~4 drawers that we put ingredients and raw dishes to roll out to the side of the stove to cook. We had the same problem you are having now. The cartwheels came off often. And the cart could trip. Our solution is to put a permanent table beside the stove. All spices/sauces for cooking are on the table permanently. For every cooking we only need to bring the raw dishes out. Since we don’t cook more than 2 dishes for a meal, these raw dishes are easy to hand hold and carry out. This has been our life in last 20 years. If you find your solution, please reply and share.
Customer:
Thank you very much. I will keep you updated.
