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Do you know how long after cooking it takes to cool off enough to pack it up?

Inquiry: 

What is the weight of the PowerFlamer propane 160 stove? Long legs included if that matters.

Do you know how long after cooking it takes to cool off enough to pack it up? We can probably calculate this from the material and mass of the main burner section and max temperature.

I’m wondering how portable this would be for camping.

Outdoorstirfry: 

Weight of a long leg PowerFlamer stove is about 24lbs.   The stove surrounding material should remain cool during cooking.  The only thing needing to cool down is the cast iron burner top plate of ~1lbs.   For temperature you can assume max of 500C.  Please reply back your calculation result of time to cool. 

You can unscrew the long legs off.  The stove results as a short leg version.  The short leg version and long legs pack nicely as portable.

Outdoorstirfry: 

WE have not seen your reply with your theoretical calculation on time to cool for the burner yet.   We took the experiment route.  After cooking our pot stickers for dinner, we took the measurement.   Initially the burner is at 227.3C with flame still on with below picture.    

Burner Beginning Temp

We collect data along 25 minutes until the burner temperature drops to about 50C.   Below is a plot.

Burner Cool Off Temp vs Time

The burner looks like having a time constant about 16 minutes.   Below is a picture when we stop the measurement. 

Burner End Temp

It looks like you can pack the stove 30 minutes after cooking.  Let us know if there is any question.

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Wok questions

Inquiry: 

Hello, I was just curious but what is the maximum size wok that you would recommend using with the Powerflamer Propane 160? I have a 14 inch flat bottom for indoor use and recently put in an order for a 14 inch round bottom wok. However, I was thinking about going bigger since this has the power to accommodate a 16 inch wok for example. That being said, I was thinking about staying to the 14 inch regardless since a 16 inch is quite unwieldy.

Also, I forgot to write in the previous communication but does it matter what type of wok is used (e.g. pow vs the one linked below)? I purchased the pow wok but am also considering purchasing the one below at a later date. However, I am not sure if that would work well with the Powerflamer.

https://www.newquistforge.com/products/two-ear-handle-round-bottomed-wok

Outdoorstirfry: 

About size of wok, the PowerFlamer stove can handle >20” wok as its flame surround bottom of the wok.  In terms of handling weight, smaller size wok is preferred, especially if you plan to toss.  In terms of serving size, of course bigger wok can accommodate more people.   We personally use 14” wok. 

The stove wind guard has one side (about ¼” perimeter) with high wall which blocks flame.  This is where the wok handle should be placed before hand touches.   1 ear of a two-ear wok will be exposed to flame.   People hand can be burnt if accidentally touches the hot ear (sometime people’s mind travels miles away from task in front of their face).   We would prefer your so-called pow wok with only one long handle. 

Let us know if there is any further question.

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Electronic ignition stays on as pilot flame?

Inquiry: 

Question about the pilot light… on your website it says that the electronic ignition does NOT have a pilot light that can stay on. However, in Kenji’s video I see that he has the electronic ignition, and his pilot stays on during cooking. Which is the correct answer? Thank you!

Outdoorstirfry: 

The concern is when the electronic ignition flame stays on, it continues to heat up the ignition tip which carries the heat through the white plastic part and the ignition black wire.   Potential result is that the continuing ignition flame will melt the white plastic tip and the black insulation around the ignition wire.   Temperature on any plastic or rubber part will shorten its life for sure. 

Our PowerFlamer propane 160 integrated electronic ignition stove solves this problem by not allowing the electronic ignition to stay on.  

Inquiry: 

So if I get the IEI version, can I have electronic ignition and have the pilot light stay on? And also, what are the other advantages of the IEI system? 

Outdoorstirfry: 

The IEI version does not have any pilot flame and the integration makes it impossible for the ignition flame to stay on by mistake.   For comparison between EI and IEI versions, please see https://outdoorstirfry.com/?s=difference+IEI+and+EI.

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Long leg to short leg conversion?

Inquiry: 

hi there, one last question before i order, if I buy the long leg version, can it be converted to short leg version easily?

Outdoorstirfry: 

yes, the long legs and their adaptors can be unscrewed from the short legs.  The stove becomes a short leg version.  

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Difference among various natural gas stove products

Inquiry: 

Hello, I have a natural gas pipe connection available on my back patio. So I am looking at the “PowerFlamer Natural Gas 160” and “EasyFlamer Natural Gas 50” as options. I have two questions: 1) Could you elaborate on what the difference is between getting a Fixed Connection and Quick Connection? 2) What are the primary feature differences between the “PowerFlamer Natural Gas 160” and “EasyFlamer Natural Gas 50” models?

Thanks in advance for all your assistance!

Outdoorstirfry: 

For difference between fixed installation and quick connect, please read https://outdoorstirfry.com/?s=difference+fixed+installation+and+quick+connect.

Main difference between PowerFlamer natural gas 160 and EasyFlamer natural gas 50 is in their max power ratings.  Additionally, EasyFlamer stove may have trouble supporting deep bottom wok which we offer an additional wok ring.  

Inquiry: 

Thank you for answering my questions. I have a few more if you don’t mind.

1) Is the top of the heat guard flush to the top of the two metal feet jutting out on the other side?

2) What is the diameter from the lip of the heat guard to those metal feet? 

Outdoorstirfry: 

1).  They are on the same height.  Any flat bottom cookware >13” can sit on them.

2).  13”

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Control comparison between PowerFlamer propane 160 and natural gas stoves

Inquiry: 

I have a natural gas hook-up on my deck, and I’m wondering if the natural gas unit works as well as the propane model and makes the venturi sound. Also does it come with the pilot light feature and and control knob?

Outdoorstirfry: 

The long handle on the natural gas stove controls the flame from zero to full in a 90-degree turn.  The smaller black handle on the right side controls the pilot light.     For the flame patterns and sounds, you can watch a couple videos to compare – video #11 “PF13LFN160 PowerFlamer Natural Gas Fixed Installation Stove Flame” for natural gas stove and #13 “Introducing PF13L160, a powerful outdoor stir fry stove.” For propane version on this product documentation link https://outdoorstirfry.com/support/product-documentation/.

For our propane PowerFlamer stove, the left knob typically needs to make 180-degree from low to high, thus has a bit more granularity in flame control.  PowerFlamer propane 160 stove has better control in low flame setting as well. 

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Questions on electronic ignition options, stand and cover.

Inquiry: 

Hi, I’ve seen many people on YouTube cook with your burner and it looks to be the best for outside wok cooking. I have a few questions.

The difference between regular one and integrated electronic ignition is just the auto starter right or are there more differences? Do both have pilot flame for low heat cooking times?

I really like the stove stand, I assume that fits your burners perfectly right, just put them in and be done?

What are the stabilizers and curious what color the stove cover is? If I get the stove stand do you have cover for that as well?

Thanks very excited to have found you guys will do some videos on Facebook and probably get you more customers

Outdoorstirfry: 

  1. For difference between EI and IEI options, please read https://outdoorstirfry.com/faq/differences-of-160ei-and-160iei-and-stand-question/.  Electronic ignition can’t serve as pilot flame.  Only our manual ignition option has a built-in pilot flame.
  2. Our PowerFlamer propane 160 short leg stove can drop onto the top hole on the stand. 
  3. Please click on “Usage Example” on the product page https://outdoorstirfry.com/product/long-leg-stabilizer-for-long-leg-stoves/ to see how stabilizers are used for more stable legs.  
  4. Please click on “Usage Examples” on the stand product page https://outdoorstirfry.com/product/stove-stand-stainless/ to see 2 colors examples. 

Inquiry: 

Thank you for quick response!  So if I want the stove stand and don’t care about using a lighter to initially light it I want the PowerFlamer Propane 160 with short legs and manual ignition?  Since I will have stand won’t need stabilizers correct?

For stand if I get wheels they can be locked it looks like in picture.

Will be ordering today just want to get exactly what I need.  Very excited to get your product and do proper wok cooking!  Right now even when wok is 585 degrees it falls to 180 the sec cold chicken or meat hit pan!  I end up cooking food with steam and not the searing hot pan I want/need!  🙂  I don’t think people realize they NEED your product!

Outdoorstirfry: 

  1. Your selection of short leg manual stove is correct for stand.
  2. The stand wheels have lock.  The stand is not that stable either when considering how people do their wok tossing, please click on “Usage Examples” on the stand product page https://outdoorstirfry.com/product/stove-stand-stainless/ to see pictures of heavy objects on the stand lower shelf for more stable cooking.
  3. Please watch 2nd video “How to know when to stop increasing power to a PowerFlamer propane/natural gas 160/120 stove?”  on our product documentation page https://outdoorstirfry.com/support/product-documentation/ when increasing the stove power flame. 

Inquiry: 

Was going to order but a little nervous about comment about stability of stand.  Can propane fit under the burner to give it more weight?  How heavy is burner?  I think my wife would complain if I put bricks on it, maybe I could put some of our cast iron pans we keep inside on it they’re quite heavy.  I could cook with a big cast iron pan on this as well if I want to do seared steaks or smash burgers right?

I have a pit boss flat top grill I plan to get rid of and focus on wok and cast iron pan cooking on your device hopefully.  I want the functionality with something that looks nice so wife doesn’t complain all the time.  🙂

Outdoorstirfry:

The height between two shelves of the stand does not fit a propane tank if you consider height of stove coming down from the top shelf hole.   A short leg PowerFlamer propane stove has weight about 23lbs. 

If your and wife’s wok cooking does not involve much wok tossing which can carry an edge of the stove which in turn affects the stand, you don’t have to worry much about the stability.   We are user to the stove with long legs ourselves for last 20 years.   We don’t have any stabilizers since our cooking style does not involve tossing.  Even if we toss (a few times in last 20 years), we make sure to lift the entire wok out of stove not to affect the stove.

 

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Installed directly on the counter?

Inquiry: 

Hello,  I would like to install this as part of my outdoor kitchen, if we build a hole on our concrete counter, can the burner be installed directly on the counter? I assume we order the short leg version? Is there anything else to keep in mind?

Outdoorstirfry: 

Do you intend to use propane or natural gas version?

Inquiry: 

Propane. 

Outdoorstirfry:

If you intend to use PowerFlamer propane 160 short leg stove, the easiest way is to cut a hole of 11” on you cook top.  The short leg PowerFlamer propane 160 stove can sit into the hole.  Please allocate empty space height of 12~15” below the hole for the stove and its inlet control valves.   This empty space needs to have armful fresh air access.  Let us know any further questions.

 

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Is Electronic Ignition Option a Separate Tool?

Inquiry: 

Is the electronic ignition option a separate tool?  https://outdoorstirfry.com/product/powerflamer-propane-160-long-lead-time/

Outdoorstirfry: 

The right knob on the valve assembly of the EI option controls the electronic ignition.  It is built into the valve assembly, not separate.  The left knob controls the main burner flame.  After the main burner flame is lit, the electronic ignition flame needs to be turned off. 

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What weight can PowerFlamer propane stove support?

Inquiry: 

Can this support the weight of a Lodge cast iron wok (11.86 lbs)?

Outdoorstirfry: 

If the weight of your wok + food is < 35 lbs, our long leg stove can support it.  Anything heavier please remove the long legs and use the resultant short leg version on a sturdy table surface.